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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7671113" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>Some... but we aren't talking about just "people" when it comes to the D&D worlds... as an example,in the 4e cosmology demons don't care about the well being of anything and wish to destroy everything... including themselves.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wait what? The interesting conflicct is in determining, through play, whose beliefs (if any) are correct (in the sense that they set the paradigm for the multiverse). I also fail to see how having not proven that LG or CG is the "correct" belief automatically defaults to NG is the correct belief... none are until it is proven/decided.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Exactly the point of Planescape play is to determine whose belefs are correct (in the way I outlined above)... if it was already decided there would be no point to playing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And IMO this is perfectly in line with Planescape and what I, (and I believe @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=2067" target="_blank">Kamikaze Midget</a></u></strong></em> and others) have been stating all along. But let's be clear... this scenario only proves, once Zeus and enough of the gods concedes, that LG is now correct for Olympus... not that LG is an objectively correct choice for anywhere else... </p><p></p><p>It is also possible that a member of the Free League later comes along beats said paladin in a trial by combat, using dirty tricks and breaking the rules, and then convinces Zeus and the other gods that Olympus has been diminished and shackled by accepting the paladins laws and that only by throwing off these pointless bureaucratic chains, and even the hierarchy of the pantheon itself can Olympus rise to it's true potential... if they accept his beliefs, CG could now be the correct choice on Olympus... and so on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 7671113, member: 48965"] Some... but we aren't talking about just "people" when it comes to the D&D worlds... as an example,in the 4e cosmology demons don't care about the well being of anything and wish to destroy everything... including themselves. Wait what? The interesting conflicct is in determining, through play, whose beliefs (if any) are correct (in the sense that they set the paradigm for the multiverse). I also fail to see how having not proven that LG or CG is the "correct" belief automatically defaults to NG is the correct belief... none are until it is proven/decided. Exactly the point of Planescape play is to determine whose belefs are correct (in the way I outlined above)... if it was already decided there would be no point to playing. And IMO this is perfectly in line with Planescape and what I, (and I believe @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=2067"]Kamikaze Midget[/URL][/U][/B][/I] and others) have been stating all along. But let's be clear... this scenario only proves, once Zeus and enough of the gods concedes, that LG is now correct for Olympus... not that LG is an objectively correct choice for anywhere else... It is also possible that a member of the Free League later comes along beats said paladin in a trial by combat, using dirty tricks and breaking the rules, and then convinces Zeus and the other gods that Olympus has been diminished and shackled by accepting the paladins laws and that only by throwing off these pointless bureaucratic chains, and even the hierarchy of the pantheon itself can Olympus rise to it's true potential... if they accept his beliefs, CG could now be the correct choice on Olympus... and so on. [/QUOTE]
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