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There are zero incarnations of swarm rules that I don't hate.
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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6022596" data-attributes="member: 6696971"><p>Hrmmm...this has to be some kind Rorschach test for the effect of looking at a singular token on a grid versus multiple tokens (I can't imagine that swarm rules would matter one way or another in TotM play as there is no sensory input outside of the description of the fiction).</p><p></p><p>- Do you want to have a token in each of 4 squares adjacent to you representing 4 tiny creatures in each square and adjudicate their collective impact as individual attack rolls (and the attacks against them one by one)?</p><p></p><p>- Do you want to have a 2 * 2 token representing 16 (or more) or more tiny creatures as a cohesive (but incoherent) swarm and adjudicate their collective impact as a collective, single attack roll + aura effect (and the attacks against them as a single attack roll with special rules)?</p><p></p><p>This seems as thought it has to be some kind of grid:token sensory input over-riding the fiction, assuming there is a depiction by the DM (because if not, then there is your answer...I'll assume that there is because you would have thought of that simple answer and therefore wouldn't have composed this thread), kind of deal as TotM is neutral. </p><p></p><p>Or maybe its the word "swarm." You could try a test. Use the 2 * 2 token, and the corresponding swarm rules, and take a black felt-tip marker and write NOT A SWARM on the token. See if that works for you or if the NOT A SWARM swarm of rats still feels like a bag of HPs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 6022596, member: 6696971"] Hrmmm...this has to be some kind Rorschach test for the effect of looking at a singular token on a grid versus multiple tokens (I can't imagine that swarm rules would matter one way or another in TotM play as there is no sensory input outside of the description of the fiction). - Do you want to have a token in each of 4 squares adjacent to you representing 4 tiny creatures in each square and adjudicate their collective impact as individual attack rolls (and the attacks against them one by one)? - Do you want to have a 2 * 2 token representing 16 (or more) or more tiny creatures as a cohesive (but incoherent) swarm and adjudicate their collective impact as a collective, single attack roll + aura effect (and the attacks against them as a single attack roll with special rules)? This seems as thought it has to be some kind of grid:token sensory input over-riding the fiction, assuming there is a depiction by the DM (because if not, then there is your answer...I'll assume that there is because you would have thought of that simple answer and therefore wouldn't have composed this thread), kind of deal as TotM is neutral. Or maybe its the word "swarm." You could try a test. Use the 2 * 2 token, and the corresponding swarm rules, and take a black felt-tip marker and write NOT A SWARM on the token. See if that works for you or if the NOT A SWARM swarm of rats still feels like a bag of HPs. [/QUOTE]
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