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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6028090" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>What length axe? Axe combat below (axe and shield vs two handed axe). It's slightly slower than sword combat, but only slightly - five slow motion exchanges in thirty seven seconds (note that it's never the first attack that hits). And each one is a complete exchange, taking the enemy off balance and with a reprise attack rather than a single blow. Below that is <a href="http://www.hammaborg.de/en/training/index.php" target="_blank">Hammaborg</a> having six sparring matches in thirty eight seconds (8 second intro), most of them having a nice exchange of a handful of blows and ending up with someone losing hard. (Also when counting the blows, remember to count the <em>shield</em> attacks - the Hammaborg group leads with the edge of their shields.) Six seconds is a good length for an exchange.</p><p></p><p>Note that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_Axe" target="_blank">dane axe</a> (or other long axe) vs shield <em>looks </em>slower because against a swordsman a lot of the time you use the long axe as a spear to fend them off. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Closing works. I'm not defending iterative attacks as a general principle.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The ones at the front were out of line of sight of him and didn't know there was a maniac on the back of the oliphaunt - all they saw was someone heading for its trunk then disappearing under its feet. Of the four at the back who could see him, he shot one with surprise. He beat the second on the draw. The third, fourth, and fifth all tried charging him. All the ones who knew he was there had a chance in between him landing on the back of the oliphaunt and diving to cut the rope. The ones who were still on the howdah were all on the <em>front</em>, facing forwards and never realised what he was up to. It was, after all, in the middle of a major battle. Objection denied.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Even your analysis above has three actions in it (one for the orcs at the back, one for the howdah, one for the oliphaunt. Interestingly they happen 20 seconds apart giving a 20 second combat round for what is ultimately an epic boss fight. (I've no objection to making combat rounds variable with naval combat being as long as five minutes per round as suggested by @Lanefan).</p><p></p><p>[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgu6L6HHHvw&feature=related]Viking Axe Combat Moves - YouTube[/ame]</p><p></p><p>[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MWvNDKdKpQ&feature=related]Large shield freefights - YouTube[/ame]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 6028090, member: 87792"] What length axe? Axe combat below (axe and shield vs two handed axe). It's slightly slower than sword combat, but only slightly - five slow motion exchanges in thirty seven seconds (note that it's never the first attack that hits). And each one is a complete exchange, taking the enemy off balance and with a reprise attack rather than a single blow. Below that is [URL="http://www.hammaborg.de/en/training/index.php"]Hammaborg[/URL] having six sparring matches in thirty eight seconds (8 second intro), most of them having a nice exchange of a handful of blows and ending up with someone losing hard. (Also when counting the blows, remember to count the [I]shield[/I] attacks - the Hammaborg group leads with the edge of their shields.) Six seconds is a good length for an exchange. Note that [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_Axe"]dane axe[/URL] (or other long axe) vs shield [I]looks [/I]slower because against a swordsman a lot of the time you use the long axe as a spear to fend them off. Closing works. I'm not defending iterative attacks as a general principle. The ones at the front were out of line of sight of him and didn't know there was a maniac on the back of the oliphaunt - all they saw was someone heading for its trunk then disappearing under its feet. Of the four at the back who could see him, he shot one with surprise. He beat the second on the draw. The third, fourth, and fifth all tried charging him. All the ones who knew he was there had a chance in between him landing on the back of the oliphaunt and diving to cut the rope. The ones who were still on the howdah were all on the [I]front[/I], facing forwards and never realised what he was up to. It was, after all, in the middle of a major battle. Objection denied. Even your analysis above has three actions in it (one for the orcs at the back, one for the howdah, one for the oliphaunt. Interestingly they happen 20 seconds apart giving a 20 second combat round for what is ultimately an epic boss fight. (I've no objection to making combat rounds variable with naval combat being as long as five minutes per round as suggested by @Lanefan). [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgu6L6HHHvw&feature=related]Viking Axe Combat Moves - YouTube[/ame] [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MWvNDKdKpQ&feature=related]Large shield freefights - YouTube[/ame] [/QUOTE]
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