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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5891742" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Really? I need to put work into 3e villains to make them <em>viable</em>. As for interesting, all I need are measn and motive.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>No. No it shouldn't. There should be books with developed lairs and peons - but I want the monster manual as a reference guide. Now supplemental material like Monster Vault: Threats to the Nentir Vale that's about a specific area and has several named dragons, with entourages can definitely include lairs rather than indicitave material. In Threats, there are three dragons - Calystrix the multi-headed red force of nature, Bitterstrike the white whose minions (presented in the book) are all using and manipulating the vengeful idiot, and Vestapalk the green, friend of kobolds. None of the three of them have the problems you've mentioned because they are specific dragons. (There's also much more about motivation in Monster Vault than the MM1).</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Try Monster Vault and Monster Vault: Threats to Nentir Vale. And seriously, the amount of fluff in the 1e Monster Manual for most creatures is negligable.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Really? To me it's pretty much functionally a book of statblocks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5891742, member: 87792"] Really? I need to put work into 3e villains to make them [I]viable[/I]. As for interesting, all I need are measn and motive. No. No it shouldn't. There should be books with developed lairs and peons - but I want the monster manual as a reference guide. Now supplemental material like Monster Vault: Threats to the Nentir Vale that's about a specific area and has several named dragons, with entourages can definitely include lairs rather than indicitave material. In Threats, there are three dragons - Calystrix the multi-headed red force of nature, Bitterstrike the white whose minions (presented in the book) are all using and manipulating the vengeful idiot, and Vestapalk the green, friend of kobolds. None of the three of them have the problems you've mentioned because they are specific dragons. (There's also much more about motivation in Monster Vault than the MM1). Try Monster Vault and Monster Vault: Threats to Nentir Vale. And seriously, the amount of fluff in the 1e Monster Manual for most creatures is negligable. Really? To me it's pretty much functionally a book of statblocks. [/QUOTE]
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