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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6920795" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>As my thermodynamics professor told me, "There is no such thing as a free lunch." Anything done on an industrial scale will have industrial-scale impacts. With seven billion people in the world, we cannot avoid having impacts, and can at best only choose what those impacts will be.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think agriculture is the section of our modern lifestyle that's the major issue. Actually growing food is perhaps 1% or 2% of the overall energy budget. Hauling it around also costs quite a bit. The Transportation sector is about 30% of our energy budget, but much of that is hauling around things that <em>aren't food</em>. So, we are probably talking about 80% or more of our energy use isn't about feeding us. Presumably, we could make lifestyle choices that reduced that, probably even drastically, without notably impacting our ability to keep people fed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6920795, member: 177"] As my thermodynamics professor told me, "There is no such thing as a free lunch." Anything done on an industrial scale will have industrial-scale impacts. With seven billion people in the world, we cannot avoid having impacts, and can at best only choose what those impacts will be. I don't think agriculture is the section of our modern lifestyle that's the major issue. Actually growing food is perhaps 1% or 2% of the overall energy budget. Hauling it around also costs quite a bit. The Transportation sector is about 30% of our energy budget, but much of that is hauling around things that [i]aren't food[/i]. So, we are probably talking about 80% or more of our energy use isn't about feeding us. Presumably, we could make lifestyle choices that reduced that, probably even drastically, without notably impacting our ability to keep people fed. [/QUOTE]
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