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<blockquote data-quote="thecasualoblivion" data-source="post: 6857927" data-attributes="member: 59096"><p>This isn't my preferred edition by a long shot. I'd much rather play 4E, 1E/2E, or 3.5E(more or less in that order) than 5E, but due to life circumstances that have nothing to do with D&D, I find myself now starting Curse of Strahd.</p><p></p><p>I played a few sessions of 5E about a year ago, and I've been in the same room where more than a few sessions were played and I kind of watched. </p><p></p><p>Here are some thoughts:</p><p></p><p>1. My main dislike of the game comes from that I find it by far the most random of any edition of D&D, and being that random I never feel in control of my own destiny. It feels like the dice matter more than my decisions in play, or my decisions in character building. In 3E or 4E, good play could be and was often more important the dice. 1E/2E could be randomly dangerous, but that element of danger is mostly missing from 5E. 1E/2E was random but lethal, and there was a level of calculated risk involved in everything you did and your decisions thus mattered. 5E is random, but things don't seem to matter much. If you fail you fall on your face, not lose/die. This wasn't at all how I played in any previous edition.</p><p></p><p>2. Given this randomness, and my powergaming tendencies, I find myself playing selfish glass cannons. I say selfish because teamwork in 5E feels like taking one for the team, and that isn't my style. Selfishness also involves being a coward and letting other people take 5E's randomness to the face, which makes me feel better as it isn't happening to me. I say glass cannon because even high defense 5E characters seem fragile. High defense in 5E only seems to make you less fragile(while still being fragile), and from a powergaming standpoint it seems like a bad investment, better to just kill enemies faster. </p><p></p><p>3. I was a Defender roughly half the time throughout the 4E era. I never felt fragile nor felt like I was taking one for the team during any of that, while in 5E I feel both are true. So I'm not playing tanks anymore.</p><p></p><p>4. Playing support seems to feel like taking one for the team as well. Some people seem to enjoy that, but it's not my style.</p><p></p><p>5. The optimization guides on forums for 5E don't really seem as helpful for 5E as they were for 3E/4E.</p><p></p><p>6. Spellcasters seem a bit weak on the whole until cantrips start to scale</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thecasualoblivion, post: 6857927, member: 59096"] This isn't my preferred edition by a long shot. I'd much rather play 4E, 1E/2E, or 3.5E(more or less in that order) than 5E, but due to life circumstances that have nothing to do with D&D, I find myself now starting Curse of Strahd. I played a few sessions of 5E about a year ago, and I've been in the same room where more than a few sessions were played and I kind of watched. Here are some thoughts: 1. My main dislike of the game comes from that I find it by far the most random of any edition of D&D, and being that random I never feel in control of my own destiny. It feels like the dice matter more than my decisions in play, or my decisions in character building. In 3E or 4E, good play could be and was often more important the dice. 1E/2E could be randomly dangerous, but that element of danger is mostly missing from 5E. 1E/2E was random but lethal, and there was a level of calculated risk involved in everything you did and your decisions thus mattered. 5E is random, but things don't seem to matter much. If you fail you fall on your face, not lose/die. This wasn't at all how I played in any previous edition. 2. Given this randomness, and my powergaming tendencies, I find myself playing selfish glass cannons. I say selfish because teamwork in 5E feels like taking one for the team, and that isn't my style. Selfishness also involves being a coward and letting other people take 5E's randomness to the face, which makes me feel better as it isn't happening to me. I say glass cannon because even high defense 5E characters seem fragile. High defense in 5E only seems to make you less fragile(while still being fragile), and from a powergaming standpoint it seems like a bad investment, better to just kill enemies faster. 3. I was a Defender roughly half the time throughout the 4E era. I never felt fragile nor felt like I was taking one for the team during any of that, while in 5E I feel both are true. So I'm not playing tanks anymore. 4. Playing support seems to feel like taking one for the team as well. Some people seem to enjoy that, but it's not my style. 5. The optimization guides on forums for 5E don't really seem as helpful for 5E as they were for 3E/4E. 6. Spellcasters seem a bit weak on the whole until cantrips start to scale [/QUOTE]
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