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<blockquote data-quote="Sir Brennen" data-source="post: 6000051" data-attributes="member: 553"><p>Maybe multiple situational amounts would be, but two is workable. Surprise on the first round, and everything else. Heck, make them different class abilities: Ambush and Sneak Attack (or Back Stab, if one is feeling more retro.) </p><p></p><p>Ambush does 1d6 per level against a surprised target (including attacking from hiding) in the first round of combat. Sneak attack is 1d6 per 2 levels for attacks with advantage (or other suggestions presented in this thread). Both are, of course, in addition to normal weapon damage and damage from other sources. Ambush and Sneak attack do not stack.</p><p></p><p>Just some other thoughts: remember that gaining advantage usually requires an action (like Hiding). I'd avoid expanding the scope of things that give the Rogue Advantage for Sneak Attack. Maybe divorcing SA from Advantage is one way to go. So perhaps Flanking allows SA, but it doesn't grant Advantage. Spending a Move Action to aim allows SA for ranged attacks (possibly only at short range). So SA wouldn't need Advantage,but it's great to have it for an SA.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sir Brennen, post: 6000051, member: 553"] Maybe multiple situational amounts would be, but two is workable. Surprise on the first round, and everything else. Heck, make them different class abilities: Ambush and Sneak Attack (or Back Stab, if one is feeling more retro.) Ambush does 1d6 per level against a surprised target (including attacking from hiding) in the first round of combat. Sneak attack is 1d6 per 2 levels for attacks with advantage (or other suggestions presented in this thread). Both are, of course, in addition to normal weapon damage and damage from other sources. Ambush and Sneak attack do not stack. Just some other thoughts: remember that gaining advantage usually requires an action (like Hiding). I'd avoid expanding the scope of things that give the Rogue Advantage for Sneak Attack. Maybe divorcing SA from Advantage is one way to go. So perhaps Flanking allows SA, but it doesn't grant Advantage. Spending a Move Action to aim allows SA for ranged attacks (possibly only at short range). So SA wouldn't need Advantage,but it's great to have it for an SA. [/QUOTE]
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