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<blockquote data-quote="Nai_Calus" data-source="post: 4776142" data-attributes="member: 79670"><p>Don't like the appearance or default background of either. Of course, if I run 4e I'm going to be near completely disregarding the default background of *everything*, and changing the appearance of a few races entirely, and throwing some out in the process that don't fit at all with what I want in a prime world.</p><p></p><p>Dragonboobs will be one of the 'out' things. I don't like Dragons at all, and if they're present at all in worlds I come up with, they're myths someone made up out of seeing some other kind of monster. I also dislike 'monster' races, which, let's face it. Dragonborn are monsters.</p><p></p><p>(And no it's not just 'ew it's new I don't like it', I'm seriously considering dumping *halflings* in favor of gnomes, because I like having a small number of races and two short things is eh)</p><p></p><p>Let's see, ranking things, for me:</p><p></p><p>1: Eladrin. (The parts of Elves I liked without the dull tree-hugging, with some weird fey-ness thrown in for good measure? Sweet! Though my eladrin are a race that's slightly over 500 years old that breeds like rabbits wherein not a single one has yet died of old age.)</p><p>2: Half-Elf. (I have a fondness for them from a PC)</p><p>3. Gnome. (I like the little buggers for some reason)</p><p>4. Dwarf. (See gnome)</p><p>5. Half-Orc. (Fondness for them from a PC too)</p><p>6. Drow. (See Half-Orc and Half-Elf, though the drow I'd use in 4e would completely toss out the usual flavour on them.)</p><p>7. Human. (They're there.)</p><p>8. Elf. (4e split the elves and the tree-hugging nature thing was the boring part)</p><p>9. Halfling. (Meh.)</p><p>10. Genasi. (OK idea, hate look, but it'll get redone if it's in at all)</p><p>11. Deva. (Deva manage to be more boring than Aasimar ever supposedly were. I *like* Aasimar.)</p><p>12. Goliath. (Does nothing for me, but doesn't really offend me.)</p><p>13. Tiefling. (Never liked them that much to begin with, 4e look is eh, redone if it's in.)</p><p>14. Shadar-kai. (Hot Topic race)</p><p>15. Shifter. (Pointless furries.)</p><p>16. Dragonborn. (Monster lizard people with females that have boobs. No thanks. Plus they step fluff-wise on where I want to take Dwarves, so meh.) </p><p></p><p>I still like the 'old' races and find them fun still, so most of the new ones are 'meh, what does this do conceptually that I can't do with an elf, or a dwarf, or even a human?'. I've never found being a weird race necessary to making a character that's interesting to me. In fact I've never found a reason to *be* a weird race. Drow and half-orcs are about as weird as I get. Anything I wanted to do I can do with an old boring normal race. So there's no appeal for me in the odd ones. (And yeah, halfling is a notable exception to this. I just plain like gnomes better.)</p><p></p><p>*shrug*</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nai_Calus, post: 4776142, member: 79670"] Don't like the appearance or default background of either. Of course, if I run 4e I'm going to be near completely disregarding the default background of *everything*, and changing the appearance of a few races entirely, and throwing some out in the process that don't fit at all with what I want in a prime world. Dragonboobs will be one of the 'out' things. I don't like Dragons at all, and if they're present at all in worlds I come up with, they're myths someone made up out of seeing some other kind of monster. I also dislike 'monster' races, which, let's face it. Dragonborn are monsters. (And no it's not just 'ew it's new I don't like it', I'm seriously considering dumping *halflings* in favor of gnomes, because I like having a small number of races and two short things is eh) Let's see, ranking things, for me: 1: Eladrin. (The parts of Elves I liked without the dull tree-hugging, with some weird fey-ness thrown in for good measure? Sweet! Though my eladrin are a race that's slightly over 500 years old that breeds like rabbits wherein not a single one has yet died of old age.) 2: Half-Elf. (I have a fondness for them from a PC) 3. Gnome. (I like the little buggers for some reason) 4. Dwarf. (See gnome) 5. Half-Orc. (Fondness for them from a PC too) 6. Drow. (See Half-Orc and Half-Elf, though the drow I'd use in 4e would completely toss out the usual flavour on them.) 7. Human. (They're there.) 8. Elf. (4e split the elves and the tree-hugging nature thing was the boring part) 9. Halfling. (Meh.) 10. Genasi. (OK idea, hate look, but it'll get redone if it's in at all) 11. Deva. (Deva manage to be more boring than Aasimar ever supposedly were. I *like* Aasimar.) 12. Goliath. (Does nothing for me, but doesn't really offend me.) 13. Tiefling. (Never liked them that much to begin with, 4e look is eh, redone if it's in.) 14. Shadar-kai. (Hot Topic race) 15. Shifter. (Pointless furries.) 16. Dragonborn. (Monster lizard people with females that have boobs. No thanks. Plus they step fluff-wise on where I want to take Dwarves, so meh.) I still like the 'old' races and find them fun still, so most of the new ones are 'meh, what does this do conceptually that I can't do with an elf, or a dwarf, or even a human?'. I've never found being a weird race necessary to making a character that's interesting to me. In fact I've never found a reason to *be* a weird race. Drow and half-orcs are about as weird as I get. Anything I wanted to do I can do with an old boring normal race. So there's no appeal for me in the odd ones. (And yeah, halfling is a notable exception to this. I just plain like gnomes better.) *shrug* [/QUOTE]
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