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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7215683" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>On a side note, why are you so hell bent in making sure that people who wear medium, heavy armor, or heavy clothing don't get nerfed unless everyone else does too? Don't like it? Don't go on an adventure in the freaking jungle. I mean, come on, you're asking to completely throw out a living campaign world for arbitrary metagaming purposes. The environment of D&D is a huge part of the game, and always has been. It absolutely should impact some characters more than others depending on what environment it is, and what the character are equipped with.</p><p></p><p>*Edit* It's like swimming in armor, and why PCs don't try doing it, and why most smart PCs don't wear heavy armor on a boat or ship if they are expecting battle. You're gonna sink. And before anyone starts that whole debate up again, we already had it <strong><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?429411-Swimming-in-armor" target="_blank">right here</a></strong>. And Umbran was nice enough in that thread to have a video of someone trying it with spectacular failed results.</p><p></p><p>The environment matters. And before someone says, "But PCs can kill dragons, so they should be able to ignore rules of wearing armor" (coincidentally a comment CapnZapp makes in that thread), I will note that because the game gives specific rules to handle things fantastically (like casting spells or taking/dealing a lot of damage), those rules do not override every other aspect of realism. Fantastical rules in the game always override only a very defined and specific aspect of realism as part of their description, and we require realism to level the playing field of all gaming groups. I.e., we all use realism as the baseline on how we play the game unless a rule or mechanic specifically overrides that expectation. It would be like telling the DM, "My fighter can kill a dragon, so why should I be affected by mundane things like eating, or sleeping, and I should be able to run up walls, water sheds off me like a duck, and etc etc"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7215683, member: 15700"] On a side note, why are you so hell bent in making sure that people who wear medium, heavy armor, or heavy clothing don't get nerfed unless everyone else does too? Don't like it? Don't go on an adventure in the freaking jungle. I mean, come on, you're asking to completely throw out a living campaign world for arbitrary metagaming purposes. The environment of D&D is a huge part of the game, and always has been. It absolutely should impact some characters more than others depending on what environment it is, and what the character are equipped with. *Edit* It's like swimming in armor, and why PCs don't try doing it, and why most smart PCs don't wear heavy armor on a boat or ship if they are expecting battle. You're gonna sink. And before anyone starts that whole debate up again, we already had it [B][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?429411-Swimming-in-armor"]right here[/URL][/B]. And Umbran was nice enough in that thread to have a video of someone trying it with spectacular failed results. The environment matters. And before someone says, "But PCs can kill dragons, so they should be able to ignore rules of wearing armor" (coincidentally a comment CapnZapp makes in that thread), I will note that because the game gives specific rules to handle things fantastically (like casting spells or taking/dealing a lot of damage), those rules do not override every other aspect of realism. Fantastical rules in the game always override only a very defined and specific aspect of realism as part of their description, and we require realism to level the playing field of all gaming groups. I.e., we all use realism as the baseline on how we play the game unless a rule or mechanic specifically overrides that expectation. It would be like telling the DM, "My fighter can kill a dragon, so why should I be affected by mundane things like eating, or sleeping, and I should be able to run up walls, water sheds off me like a duck, and etc etc" [/QUOTE]
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