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Tomb of Horrors - example of many, or one of a kind?
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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 5579212" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Yeah, right*.</p><p></p><p>Please note how I didn't claim the ToH was "unfair". </p><p></p><p>I, personally, think "fair" and "unfair" don't usually apply to adventure design, unless you view GMing a module as a testing procedure. Now, as a tournament piece, that's what ToH was initially designed to be, and so the question is relevant for that context, but then it is really more one of how easy the module is to adjudicate similarly across several judges, and less about the content itself. And I think there's a great question to be asked into what, exactly, they're testing for with this one.</p><p></p><p>be that as it may, I usually approach GMing from the perspective of trying to give my players a good time. It isn't a question of fairness, but of funness (which is, of course, subjective). </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll accept that to any standard you, RC, personally find reasonable, the ToH is fair. I cannot argue with that, and wouldn't want to. I'll even accept it, knowing that, really, you're casting a personal judgement on standards before you even hear them. That's your choice to make.</p><p></p><p>But, unless you pass around the memo showing that you finally got the promotion to Ultimate Arbiter of Reasonableness you've been bucking for, this is an appeal to personal authority without support. It comes out as just another variation on the, "If you don't agree with me your mental process are inferior to mine**," form of argument. </p><p></p><p>As always, it's kind of insulting. Thanks, but no thanks.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">*Arthur Dent, technically, had the means to determine that his house was going to be demolished for a bypass. You may decide for yourself if he was treated fairly.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">**Including, but not limited to: you are stupid, naive, ignorant, crazy, fanboi, hater... and just plain unreasonable. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 5579212, member: 177"] Yeah, right*. Please note how I didn't claim the ToH was "unfair". I, personally, think "fair" and "unfair" don't usually apply to adventure design, unless you view GMing a module as a testing procedure. Now, as a tournament piece, that's what ToH was initially designed to be, and so the question is relevant for that context, but then it is really more one of how easy the module is to adjudicate similarly across several judges, and less about the content itself. And I think there's a great question to be asked into what, exactly, they're testing for with this one. be that as it may, I usually approach GMing from the perspective of trying to give my players a good time. It isn't a question of fairness, but of funness (which is, of course, subjective). I'll accept that to any standard you, RC, personally find reasonable, the ToH is fair. I cannot argue with that, and wouldn't want to. I'll even accept it, knowing that, really, you're casting a personal judgement on standards before you even hear them. That's your choice to make. But, unless you pass around the memo showing that you finally got the promotion to Ultimate Arbiter of Reasonableness you've been bucking for, this is an appeal to personal authority without support. It comes out as just another variation on the, "If you don't agree with me your mental process are inferior to mine**," form of argument. As always, it's kind of insulting. Thanks, but no thanks. [SIZE="1"] *Arthur Dent, technically, had the means to determine that his house was going to be demolished for a bypass. You may decide for yourself if he was treated fairly. **Including, but not limited to: you are stupid, naive, ignorant, crazy, fanboi, hater... and just plain unreasonable. [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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