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Tomelock/Favoured Soul - multiclassing breakpoints and progression after level 3
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<blockquote data-quote="Aidante" data-source="post: 6863288" data-attributes="member: 6831110"><p>Hah, yes, thinking about 20 is a little ambitious at this stage, but it's nice to have an idea how things might end up if I last that long.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for your thoughts, mellored - particularly about possibly keeping Command for mass OAs. The melee contingent in my party will be grateful! </p><p></p><p>I've been looking at Quicken as the only option to synch up with EB but thinking about action economy, as you say, limited SP early on would require burning a bonus action and spell slot every other round, which is going to be tricky given the need for Hex relocation and pretty inefficient.</p><p></p><p>I'm fond of Hex for the damage boost it gives now - often enough to push me into one-shot territory for smaller enemies, and it appeals all the more now given the multi beam EB coming soon. With that in mind - and given the intention to use level 1 slots for Hex for key combats - perhaps Twin would be the better/cheaper choice over Quicken? Twin Hex has the potential to situationally help on in combat ability checks, too - Hex on Entangled targets if they fail their initial save, and if I do splash Bard or relearn a cantrip (again, DM-approved) via Tome to Vicious Mockery, twinning that sounds like a reasonable use of 1 SP if the party needs a debuff on two big targets rather than damage or if I'm at disadvantage to hit myself.</p><p></p><p>Twinned Booming Blade and a Misty Step to finish also sounds very satisfying. Hmn. Twin Suggestion, Twin Hold Person - marginally cheaper to Twin than upcast, though only at the lower levels for HP, and Suggestion can't be upcast. Am I missing anything else for Twin over Quicken?</p><p></p><p>Valor Bard is...not something I'd considered, but actually three, five or six levels in either college would be pretty handy, considering short rest synergies. </p><p></p><p>There would be costs to SP and higher-level sorc spells if I kept the idea of fitting FS in as well and sacrificing metamagic's interaction with Warlock spells if I went straight Bardlock...and going Valor would also delay shields by two levels. Something else worth thinking over on the way to Warlock 5, though.</p><p></p><p>Further questions to all: does anyone have experience of playing a Sorlock or Bardlock above three levels in Warlock? Any experimental three-way Bardlockerers out there?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aidante, post: 6863288, member: 6831110"] Hah, yes, thinking about 20 is a little ambitious at this stage, but it's nice to have an idea how things might end up if I last that long. Thanks for your thoughts, mellored - particularly about possibly keeping Command for mass OAs. The melee contingent in my party will be grateful! I've been looking at Quicken as the only option to synch up with EB but thinking about action economy, as you say, limited SP early on would require burning a bonus action and spell slot every other round, which is going to be tricky given the need for Hex relocation and pretty inefficient. I'm fond of Hex for the damage boost it gives now - often enough to push me into one-shot territory for smaller enemies, and it appeals all the more now given the multi beam EB coming soon. With that in mind - and given the intention to use level 1 slots for Hex for key combats - perhaps Twin would be the better/cheaper choice over Quicken? Twin Hex has the potential to situationally help on in combat ability checks, too - Hex on Entangled targets if they fail their initial save, and if I do splash Bard or relearn a cantrip (again, DM-approved) via Tome to Vicious Mockery, twinning that sounds like a reasonable use of 1 SP if the party needs a debuff on two big targets rather than damage or if I'm at disadvantage to hit myself. Twinned Booming Blade and a Misty Step to finish also sounds very satisfying. Hmn. Twin Suggestion, Twin Hold Person - marginally cheaper to Twin than upcast, though only at the lower levels for HP, and Suggestion can't be upcast. Am I missing anything else for Twin over Quicken? Valor Bard is...not something I'd considered, but actually three, five or six levels in either college would be pretty handy, considering short rest synergies. There would be costs to SP and higher-level sorc spells if I kept the idea of fitting FS in as well and sacrificing metamagic's interaction with Warlock spells if I went straight Bardlock...and going Valor would also delay shields by two levels. Something else worth thinking over on the way to Warlock 5, though. Further questions to all: does anyone have experience of playing a Sorlock or Bardlock above three levels in Warlock? Any experimental three-way Bardlockerers out there? [/QUOTE]
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