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<blockquote data-quote="Jhaelen" data-source="post: 5977580" data-attributes="member: 46713"><p>I... see.</p><p>It strikes me as 'somewhat' opinionated, though <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>See, I'm a fan, and I never liked the Forgotten Realms, since it's the very definition of 'vanilla' (and that's about as boring as you can get!), so every change to the setting counts as an improvement in my book.</p><p>Dark Sun, however, has always been my favorite setting (and happens to be the one we're playing in right, now).</p><p></p><p>I have honestly no idea, what you're referring to when you talk about 'unedited products' and 'worse maps'?!</p><p></p><p>And I don't know a single 'fan' who wants trimmer rulebooks. I agree, that they might be more attractive for new players, but that doesn't mean that _I_ like them. I want meaty books!</p><p></p><p>Besides, it's a bit of a stretch to count the complete book content as the ruleset. The actual ruleset is only a very small part of the whole.</p><p></p><p>There is a certain amount of truth in many of your points but if you want to actually convince someone with them who isn't already sharing your opinion, you certainly have to restate them in more neutral and less absolute terms.</p><p></p><p>(I'd have said 'keep out the exaggerations', but since you asserted so convincingly that there are none, maybe keep out the 'sweeping generalizations' <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />).</p><p></p><p>Edit: I'm also from Germany, btw. and have neer been a fan of the (in my eyes) 'inferior' Mentzer rules. I've grown up using the 1e AD&D rules (after getting to know rpgs via 'Das Schwarze Auge' and 'Midgard', of course).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jhaelen, post: 5977580, member: 46713"] I... see. It strikes me as 'somewhat' opinionated, though ;) See, I'm a fan, and I never liked the Forgotten Realms, since it's the very definition of 'vanilla' (and that's about as boring as you can get!), so every change to the setting counts as an improvement in my book. Dark Sun, however, has always been my favorite setting (and happens to be the one we're playing in right, now). I have honestly no idea, what you're referring to when you talk about 'unedited products' and 'worse maps'?! And I don't know a single 'fan' who wants trimmer rulebooks. I agree, that they might be more attractive for new players, but that doesn't mean that _I_ like them. I want meaty books! Besides, it's a bit of a stretch to count the complete book content as the ruleset. The actual ruleset is only a very small part of the whole. There is a certain amount of truth in many of your points but if you want to actually convince someone with them who isn't already sharing your opinion, you certainly have to restate them in more neutral and less absolute terms. (I'd have said 'keep out the exaggerations', but since you asserted so convincingly that there are none, maybe keep out the 'sweeping generalizations' ;)). Edit: I'm also from Germany, btw. and have neer been a fan of the (in my eyes) 'inferior' Mentzer rules. I've grown up using the 1e AD&D rules (after getting to know rpgs via 'Das Schwarze Auge' and 'Midgard', of course). [/QUOTE]
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