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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 5978181" data-attributes="member: 725"><p>I honestly think that D&D 5E will sell very poorly unless it's very good, and it's attractively presented. WotC has seriously damaged D&D fan's confidence in the property, not to mention any confidence in WotC to properly support the property. Any promises about digital products or capabilities will be smirked at, only properly working products will be considered.</p><p></p><p>As a D&D fan I have a lot of 2E, almost all of 3E (missing 2-3 books), and 4E up to the release of the Redbox/Essentials. The problem is that 4E is pretty much unused, I bought it because it was D&D.</p><p></p><p>Sure Forgotten Realms are vanilla and not as exciting as other settings, but it was what most folks expected of fantasy RPGs, not to mention the huge pile of fluff that was available. I actually mined the 2E OCRed pdfs for cool stuff of the area the players were currently exploring, saving me work and giving the players a feeling of immersion. My players actually started buying the 3E FR books because of the fluff they liked to read and recognize stuff they read about in the games. Moving FR so much forward into the timeline was a huge mistake and 4E pretty much killed all the fluff imho.</p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong, I love Planescape, Spelljammer, and Darksun. I like Mystara (just had the 2E stuff), Birthright, Ravenloft, and Dragonlance. Greyhawk I just don't have that much from, and until a few years ago was a relatively bland setting (even more so then FR). The problem with settings that are 'unique' is that you have trouble with your gaming group, there's always at least one or two folks that aren't as excited about it as the regular old S&S. Almost forgot about Eberron, that's just a really weird duck!</p><p></p><p>I think it's interesting that WotC set themselves up to fail with pulling the Dragon and Dungeon license from Paizo. Up until then Paizo hadn't produced a single OGL product (please correct me if I'm wrong). And essentially forcing Paizo to become a competitor of D&D. As a DM, I found Dragon and Dungeon magazine some of the most inspired source for my own adventures, better then a lot of the stuff WotC produced for 3E. Heck, for the last five years I've thought that Burnt Offerings is probably the best way to start a new campaign...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 5978181, member: 725"] I honestly think that D&D 5E will sell very poorly unless it's very good, and it's attractively presented. WotC has seriously damaged D&D fan's confidence in the property, not to mention any confidence in WotC to properly support the property. Any promises about digital products or capabilities will be smirked at, only properly working products will be considered. As a D&D fan I have a lot of 2E, almost all of 3E (missing 2-3 books), and 4E up to the release of the Redbox/Essentials. The problem is that 4E is pretty much unused, I bought it because it was D&D. Sure Forgotten Realms are vanilla and not as exciting as other settings, but it was what most folks expected of fantasy RPGs, not to mention the huge pile of fluff that was available. I actually mined the 2E OCRed pdfs for cool stuff of the area the players were currently exploring, saving me work and giving the players a feeling of immersion. My players actually started buying the 3E FR books because of the fluff they liked to read and recognize stuff they read about in the games. Moving FR so much forward into the timeline was a huge mistake and 4E pretty much killed all the fluff imho. Don't get me wrong, I love Planescape, Spelljammer, and Darksun. I like Mystara (just had the 2E stuff), Birthright, Ravenloft, and Dragonlance. Greyhawk I just don't have that much from, and until a few years ago was a relatively bland setting (even more so then FR). The problem with settings that are 'unique' is that you have trouble with your gaming group, there's always at least one or two folks that aren't as excited about it as the regular old S&S. Almost forgot about Eberron, that's just a really weird duck! I think it's interesting that WotC set themselves up to fail with pulling the Dragon and Dungeon license from Paizo. Up until then Paizo hadn't produced a single OGL product (please correct me if I'm wrong). And essentially forcing Paizo to become a competitor of D&D. As a DM, I found Dragon and Dungeon magazine some of the most inspired source for my own adventures, better then a lot of the stuff WotC produced for 3E. Heck, for the last five years I've thought that Burnt Offerings is probably the best way to start a new campaign... [/QUOTE]
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