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Tor-eal (1000 years after the Devils win the Blood War)
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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 8043740" data-attributes="member: 83242"><p>I get that,, but is clearly the one you prefer or it wouldn't be the story that is told for years. It just seems to me an odd conclusion based on the premise of what would happen if the devils won the blood war. But if that is what you want, so be it.</p><p></p><p>But they were not all in Abeir to begin with - I provided that info in the other tread. I think the better options is just to ignore them. They were canon in 4e, but necessarily in 5e. I don't think there has been anything official regarding primordials in 5e FR.</p><p></p><p> Great, two pseudo-gods <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> JK</p><p></p><p>To clarify I have no issue with settings that don't have gods. I just don't want to play in them. As I mentioned previously i don't play in published settings, of the ones listed I would be most interested in Eberron (which does have gods BTW), but again I don't use published settings.</p><p></p><p>PS. Didn't you say Tiamat and Asmodeus survived as well? I'm glad my favorite dragon goddess made it BTW<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Again, I find it an odd conclusion - but we all see what we want see. I do get the idea of still using existing geographies, though I assume you are planning to discuss how these have changed over the 1,000 yrs. Heck after 1,000 yrs RL cities can have major transformation.</p><p></p><p>Finally, I am sorry I've come out bit negative about this thread / idea. I think a lot of what your're suggesting is interesting and I looked forward to what else you share. I just have a problem with the history, I can't get were you got from where you started with my perspective of the outer planes, fiends, & celestials. It just doesn't track logically to me, but that is a me issue and I don't think you are interested in looking at the details of that history. As to not derail you any further I will not bring it up again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 8043740, member: 83242"] I get that,, but is clearly the one you prefer or it wouldn't be the story that is told for years. It just seems to me an odd conclusion based on the premise of what would happen if the devils won the blood war. But if that is what you want, so be it. But they were not all in Abeir to begin with - I provided that info in the other tread. I think the better options is just to ignore them. They were canon in 4e, but necessarily in 5e. I don't think there has been anything official regarding primordials in 5e FR. Great, two pseudo-gods :p JK To clarify I have no issue with settings that don't have gods. I just don't want to play in them. As I mentioned previously i don't play in published settings, of the ones listed I would be most interested in Eberron (which does have gods BTW), but again I don't use published settings. PS. Didn't you say Tiamat and Asmodeus survived as well? I'm glad my favorite dragon goddess made it BTW;) Again, I find it an odd conclusion - but we all see what we want see. I do get the idea of still using existing geographies, though I assume you are planning to discuss how these have changed over the 1,000 yrs. Heck after 1,000 yrs RL cities can have major transformation. Finally, I am sorry I've come out bit negative about this thread / idea. I think a lot of what your're suggesting is interesting and I looked forward to what else you share. I just have a problem with the history, I can't get were you got from where you started with my perspective of the outer planes, fiends, & celestials. It just doesn't track logically to me, but that is a me issue and I don't think you are interested in looking at the details of that history. As to not derail you any further I will not bring it up again. [/QUOTE]
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