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Touch attacks = attack/standard action?
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<blockquote data-quote="Quasqueton" data-source="post: 2310845" data-attributes="member: 3854"><p>I have a house rule:</p><p>I know most folks aren't bothered by this exception to the core/standard rule of one standard action + one move action = one round. But it bothers me on a visceral level. I've always said it breaks the core/standard rule by allowing a standard action + a move action + a standard action in one round. </p><p></p><p>But something just struck me while rethinking this house rule (as I rethink all my house rules occassionally). Is a touch attack actually an attack [standard] action? According to the RAW, touch attacks can be included with:</p><p></p><p>Casting a spell [a standard action itself]</p><p>Initiating a grapple [an attack action itself]</p><p>Initiating a trip [an attack action itself]</p><p>And many supernatural attacks like a green hag's weakness attack, etc. [a standard action itself]</p><p>You can even touch 6 allies with casting a spell</p><p></p><p>Are there other examples of a touch attack being part of a standard action?</p><p></p><p>So this got me thinking. Is a touch attack a standard action by itself? Or is it something less?</p><p></p><p>Although you can include a touch attack as part of casting a spell, the round you cast the spell, it is considered an attack (standard action) unto itself when used in rounds after the initial casting. So this is a counter-point to the idea.</p><p></p><p>And can something like the green hag's weakness attack be "activated" (Su = standard action), then run up to the victim, then deliver the touch attack?</p><p></p><p>What do you think?</p><p></p><p>Quasqueton</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quasqueton, post: 2310845, member: 3854"] I have a house rule: I know most folks aren't bothered by this exception to the core/standard rule of one standard action + one move action = one round. But it bothers me on a visceral level. I've always said it breaks the core/standard rule by allowing a standard action + a move action + a standard action in one round. But something just struck me while rethinking this house rule (as I rethink all my house rules occassionally). Is a touch attack actually an attack [standard] action? According to the RAW, touch attacks can be included with: Casting a spell [a standard action itself] Initiating a grapple [an attack action itself] Initiating a trip [an attack action itself] And many supernatural attacks like a green hag's weakness attack, etc. [a standard action itself] You can even touch 6 allies with casting a spell Are there other examples of a touch attack being part of a standard action? So this got me thinking. Is a touch attack a standard action by itself? Or is it something less? Although you can include a touch attack as part of casting a spell, the round you cast the spell, it is considered an attack (standard action) unto itself when used in rounds after the initial casting. So this is a counter-point to the idea. And can something like the green hag's weakness attack be "activated" (Su = standard action), then run up to the victim, then deliver the touch attack? What do you think? Quasqueton [/QUOTE]
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