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<blockquote data-quote="Zephrin the Lost" data-source="post: 5461502" data-attributes="member: 30760"><p>Well, it's a daily, so one use per 4-5 encounters, so it's not going to be there every combat. And if the target takes any damage, the effect ends, and it ends anyway on a save. </p><p></p><p>So at worst on a daily you're getting 1 round of stunned on 1 creature that you probably shouldn't attack while transmuted because you won't know if it makes it's save or not until the end of it's turn, and even if you do attack it, you get the bonus for CA and nothing else and if you hit you automatically end the effect returning the beast to the fight. </p><p></p><p>Solos usually have bonuses to saves , so yes, you take the dragon out for 1 round, but then what? and how do you capitalize on that round? No stats change so throwing the creature over a cliff is no easier than doing so prior to this power's use.</p><p></p><p>So I think the question is, what combos or tactics would actually allow you to abuse this? </p><p></p><p>I think it's best against an elite with lots of minions/allies. Ignore him while he's a frog and weaken the others while he's busy trying to save. </p><p></p><p>--Z</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zephrin the Lost, post: 5461502, member: 30760"] Well, it's a daily, so one use per 4-5 encounters, so it's not going to be there every combat. And if the target takes any damage, the effect ends, and it ends anyway on a save. So at worst on a daily you're getting 1 round of stunned on 1 creature that you probably shouldn't attack while transmuted because you won't know if it makes it's save or not until the end of it's turn, and even if you do attack it, you get the bonus for CA and nothing else and if you hit you automatically end the effect returning the beast to the fight. Solos usually have bonuses to saves , so yes, you take the dragon out for 1 round, but then what? and how do you capitalize on that round? No stats change so throwing the creature over a cliff is no easier than doing so prior to this power's use. So I think the question is, what combos or tactics would actually allow you to abuse this? I think it's best against an elite with lots of minions/allies. Ignore him while he's a frog and weaken the others while he's busy trying to save. --Z [/QUOTE]
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