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<blockquote data-quote="Treantmonklvl20" data-source="post: 6616380" data-attributes="member: 55582"><p>Thank you for the responses!</p><p></p><p></p><p>My "orange" rating warns against spells that are circumstantial. I agree it is a good spell against the creatures it works against. I prefer selecting spells that have broader use (and thus recommend them).</p><p></p><p></p><p>I mostly agree (exception: I still think counterspell is better though). I did struggle with the purple rating, which I think is fairly clear in my spell description. I still think there is redundancy in selecting both spells for preparation (although I'm glad to admit situations will occur where only one or the other will be needed). I still think it's OK to have both spells prepared despite the overlap, thus the purple rating. In my defense, I do say in the comments that it is a good spell. I do this with a lot of spells where I find redundancy, like Fear/Slow/Hypnotic Pattern. The redundancy affects the rating of the spells I consider the secondary choice.</p><p></p><p>Note that I recommend neither Gate nor Planar Binding in my guide (which hurt a bit as I've always been a planar binding fan in past editions, but the wording is horribly vague in 5e).</p><p></p><p>Yes, there are certainly ways to use combinations to find use for spells. Wall of Fire and Thunderwave I think is a pretty difficult setup, but I could certainly see possibilities if you teamed up with another party member with the charge feat for example. I do think this kind of use is pretty specialized though.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I will take a second look at Planar Binding. I found the wording very vague and that bothered me, as a DM will scrutinize a spell like this one. If you take a look at any of my past wizard guides, I've certainly praised the value of a planar bound creature, the very first guide I ever wrote was my Guide to the Malconvoker, a PrC that specialized in summoning and planar binding. I think you are also limited by the significant reduction in summon options in 5e too though.</p><p></p><p></p><p> The binding circle, summon (which used to be part of planar binding), and forcing it to serve (which used to involve opposed Cha rolls) were all a part of 3.5 and Pathfinder.</p><p></p><p>I've run out of time. Time to go to work. I'll look over your post some more this afternoon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treantmonklvl20, post: 6616380, member: 55582"] Thank you for the responses! My "orange" rating warns against spells that are circumstantial. I agree it is a good spell against the creatures it works against. I prefer selecting spells that have broader use (and thus recommend them). I mostly agree (exception: I still think counterspell is better though). I did struggle with the purple rating, which I think is fairly clear in my spell description. I still think there is redundancy in selecting both spells for preparation (although I'm glad to admit situations will occur where only one or the other will be needed). I still think it's OK to have both spells prepared despite the overlap, thus the purple rating. In my defense, I do say in the comments that it is a good spell. I do this with a lot of spells where I find redundancy, like Fear/Slow/Hypnotic Pattern. The redundancy affects the rating of the spells I consider the secondary choice. Note that I recommend neither Gate nor Planar Binding in my guide (which hurt a bit as I've always been a planar binding fan in past editions, but the wording is horribly vague in 5e). Yes, there are certainly ways to use combinations to find use for spells. Wall of Fire and Thunderwave I think is a pretty difficult setup, but I could certainly see possibilities if you teamed up with another party member with the charge feat for example. I do think this kind of use is pretty specialized though. I will take a second look at Planar Binding. I found the wording very vague and that bothered me, as a DM will scrutinize a spell like this one. If you take a look at any of my past wizard guides, I've certainly praised the value of a planar bound creature, the very first guide I ever wrote was my Guide to the Malconvoker, a PrC that specialized in summoning and planar binding. I think you are also limited by the significant reduction in summon options in 5e too though. The binding circle, summon (which used to be part of planar binding), and forcing it to serve (which used to involve opposed Cha rolls) were all a part of 3.5 and Pathfinder. I've run out of time. Time to go to work. I'll look over your post some more this afternoon. [/QUOTE]
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