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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6616533" data-attributes="member: 6787650"><p>Meh, Gate is not impressive to me. Too expensive. I'd rather have six semi-permanent Invisible Stalkers or Air/Earth Elementals (1000 gp each) than a 50% chance at a Goristro (6000 gp and a CHA save by the Goristro to acquire one; I'm just calling it 50% for simplicity but the chance of success obviously varies based on things like whether or not you Bestow Curse the Goristro before binding it, whether you have a wild sorc helping you, etc.).</p><p></p><p>You can't get 32 Mephits. Max is 24.</p><p></p><p>Good luck killing 32 wolves with one Fireball. Did you houserule Fireball to have a hundred-yard radius or are you just assuming they're glued together in a giant ball of fur? Meteor Swarm would work though, or multiple Fireballs.</p><p></p><p>RE: high-level clerics as summoners, all they've got is Conjure Celestial (and presumably Conjure Fiend if you infer that spell's existence). With a 9th level spell slot, they can get a CR 5 Celestial. Couatls are nice for utility, but otherwise Celestials are pretty meh. With a 9th level spell slot, druids can get a CR 9 Fey via Conjure Fey. In either case you're probably going to have to make up new Celestials/Fey to summon, but the raw CR suggests that the druids are probably going to get better allies via summoning.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6616533, member: 6787650"] Meh, Gate is not impressive to me. Too expensive. I'd rather have six semi-permanent Invisible Stalkers or Air/Earth Elementals (1000 gp each) than a 50% chance at a Goristro (6000 gp and a CHA save by the Goristro to acquire one; I'm just calling it 50% for simplicity but the chance of success obviously varies based on things like whether or not you Bestow Curse the Goristro before binding it, whether you have a wild sorc helping you, etc.). You can't get 32 Mephits. Max is 24. Good luck killing 32 wolves with one Fireball. Did you houserule Fireball to have a hundred-yard radius or are you just assuming they're glued together in a giant ball of fur? Meteor Swarm would work though, or multiple Fireballs. RE: high-level clerics as summoners, all they've got is Conjure Celestial (and presumably Conjure Fiend if you infer that spell's existence). With a 9th level spell slot, they can get a CR 5 Celestial. Couatls are nice for utility, but otherwise Celestials are pretty meh. With a 9th level spell slot, druids can get a CR 9 Fey via Conjure Fey. In either case you're probably going to have to make up new Celestials/Fey to summon, but the raw CR suggests that the druids are probably going to get better allies via summoning. [/QUOTE]
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