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<blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 6996708" data-attributes="member: 53980"><p>Fair enough. My preference is to just tell them that their simulacrums still count as themselves (including for casting Wish) and therefore can't have a simulacrum of their own (because if the simulacrum creates a simulacrum the first simulacrum will disappear). </p><p></p><p>I still think antimagic field is too small to be effective (25' diameter). Maybe if you use a chokepoint, but against an army of wizards who can just Misty Step, its efficacy is questionable at best. Similarly, I believe that dispel magic used to have an area effect option, but in 5e it is a targeted effect only. As such, it's not much use as a trap.</p><p></p><p>You certainly do have countermeasures at your disposal as the DM. A mage creating a clone mage army could easily draw the attention of the gods (who aren't too keen on this mortal growing exponentially in power) or the forces of balance (I don't think this one needs explaining). Of course, if you let the BBEG get away with it but punish the players when they try to do so, your response might be less justifiable...</p><p></p><p>EDIT</p><p>Sorry, forgot one of my talking points. Antimagic field isn't really a great way to defend against magic. The clone mage army can just use Telekinesis to drop heavy objects on you. Since you're inside an Antimagic Field, you can't even use magic to defend against those attacks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fanaelialae, post: 6996708, member: 53980"] Fair enough. My preference is to just tell them that their simulacrums still count as themselves (including for casting Wish) and therefore can't have a simulacrum of their own (because if the simulacrum creates a simulacrum the first simulacrum will disappear). I still think antimagic field is too small to be effective (25' diameter). Maybe if you use a chokepoint, but against an army of wizards who can just Misty Step, its efficacy is questionable at best. Similarly, I believe that dispel magic used to have an area effect option, but in 5e it is a targeted effect only. As such, it's not much use as a trap. You certainly do have countermeasures at your disposal as the DM. A mage creating a clone mage army could easily draw the attention of the gods (who aren't too keen on this mortal growing exponentially in power) or the forces of balance (I don't think this one needs explaining). Of course, if you let the BBEG get away with it but punish the players when they try to do so, your response might be less justifiable... EDIT Sorry, forgot one of my talking points. Antimagic field isn't really a great way to defend against magic. The clone mage army can just use Telekinesis to drop heavy objects on you. Since you're inside an Antimagic Field, you can't even use magic to defend against those attacks. [/QUOTE]
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