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<blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 6997160" data-attributes="member: 53980"><p>I can't address every point because I have to run and do wedding planning stuff however...</p><p></p><p>Read the spell description for Simulacrum. It clearly states that the simulacrum is friendly to its creator, rather than acting under a compulsion. </p><p></p><p>Besides, in my edit (which I'm guessing you didn't see) I addressed a solution to the second sim going rogue. Command its creator to immediately command it to "Stop". It's not going to be able to cast Wish faster than a one syllable command.</p><p></p><p>The Sim chain isn't a "gotcha", it's an exploit. Some people would probably argue that it's being "clever" rather than exploitative, though I wouldn't agree. It's far too obvious to fall into the category of cleverness, as far as I'm concerned.</p><p></p><p>Like I said, I won't allow Sim chain IMC. I've made it very clear in my rules wiki that a simulacrum counts as "yourself". Therefore if your simulacrum creates its own simulacrum, it destroys itself (because it counts as you casting Simulacrum again). If your simulacrum casts Wish for something other than duplicating a spell below 9th level, there is a 33% chance that you will never be able to cast Wish again. I don't consider it a house rule so much as a ruling, since the rules don't say one way or the other on the matter. While my regular players would never pull something like this (they understand the concept of "mutually assured destruction") we do have new players rotate in from time to time (in fact, we should be getting 2 or 3 new guys next week). </p><p></p><p>If I state it clearly up front, then there can be no hard feelings since I've made my stance clear from the get-go. </p><p></p><p>If I were to simply build a "gotcha" into the spell, then the player might be upset when it is discovered (if it's a surprise), or the player might find a workaround (as I did, above). I don't want to leave room for a workaround, and I certainly don't want to upset my players, hence I think my solution is the better option (for me at least).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fanaelialae, post: 6997160, member: 53980"] I can't address every point because I have to run and do wedding planning stuff however... Read the spell description for Simulacrum. It clearly states that the simulacrum is friendly to its creator, rather than acting under a compulsion. Besides, in my edit (which I'm guessing you didn't see) I addressed a solution to the second sim going rogue. Command its creator to immediately command it to "Stop". It's not going to be able to cast Wish faster than a one syllable command. The Sim chain isn't a "gotcha", it's an exploit. Some people would probably argue that it's being "clever" rather than exploitative, though I wouldn't agree. It's far too obvious to fall into the category of cleverness, as far as I'm concerned. Like I said, I won't allow Sim chain IMC. I've made it very clear in my rules wiki that a simulacrum counts as "yourself". Therefore if your simulacrum creates its own simulacrum, it destroys itself (because it counts as you casting Simulacrum again). If your simulacrum casts Wish for something other than duplicating a spell below 9th level, there is a 33% chance that you will never be able to cast Wish again. I don't consider it a house rule so much as a ruling, since the rules don't say one way or the other on the matter. While my regular players would never pull something like this (they understand the concept of "mutually assured destruction") we do have new players rotate in from time to time (in fact, we should be getting 2 or 3 new guys next week). If I state it clearly up front, then there can be no hard feelings since I've made my stance clear from the get-go. If I were to simply build a "gotcha" into the spell, then the player might be upset when it is discovered (if it's a surprise), or the player might find a workaround (as I did, above). I don't want to leave room for a workaround, and I certainly don't want to upset my players, hence I think my solution is the better option (for me at least). [/QUOTE]
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