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Two Questions about the Staff of Swarming Insects
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<blockquote data-quote="Pauper" data-source="post: 7149299" data-attributes="member: 17607"><p>Agreed. The Giant Insect and Insect Plague spells cast through the staff clearly are spells, though that's not in dispute.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Note that Animate Dead does grant control over the animated creature for 24 hours, and requires that the spell be cast again to reassert control -- for this reason, I'd rule that Dispel Magic would remove control of undead creatures created by the spell, since it is an effect of the spell (and Animate Dead specifically says you must cast the spell "on the creature" to reassert control, which satisfies Dispel Magic's text that any spell "on the target" ends).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You could rule this way as DM, but given that the staff's description describes the Insect Cloud as "a swarm of harmless flying insects", I think it would be justified for other effects not listed in the description to remove the swarm, if a DM ruled it as such -- for instance, if the entire area of the swarm is within the area of effect of a Cone of Cold, it would be reasonable (IMO) for a DM to rule that all the insects in the swarm fall to the earth, frozen solid, and the obscurement effect ends, even though this is not specifically an effect that would end the effect as per the staff's description.</p><p></p><p>This won't be a big deal at a 'regular' table; your players will get the idea as to whether you as a DM are a rules literalist or a more flexible adjudicator and will adjust their expectations accordingly. It might be a bigger deal at a convention table or other 'one-shot' experience, though, so that would be one of the things I'd mention as part of my DM introduction spiel.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p>Pauper</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pauper, post: 7149299, member: 17607"] Agreed. The Giant Insect and Insect Plague spells cast through the staff clearly are spells, though that's not in dispute. Note that Animate Dead does grant control over the animated creature for 24 hours, and requires that the spell be cast again to reassert control -- for this reason, I'd rule that Dispel Magic would remove control of undead creatures created by the spell, since it is an effect of the spell (and Animate Dead specifically says you must cast the spell "on the creature" to reassert control, which satisfies Dispel Magic's text that any spell "on the target" ends). Agreed. You could rule this way as DM, but given that the staff's description describes the Insect Cloud as "a swarm of harmless flying insects", I think it would be justified for other effects not listed in the description to remove the swarm, if a DM ruled it as such -- for instance, if the entire area of the swarm is within the area of effect of a Cone of Cold, it would be reasonable (IMO) for a DM to rule that all the insects in the swarm fall to the earth, frozen solid, and the obscurement effect ends, even though this is not specifically an effect that would end the effect as per the staff's description. This won't be a big deal at a 'regular' table; your players will get the idea as to whether you as a DM are a rules literalist or a more flexible adjudicator and will adjust their expectations accordingly. It might be a bigger deal at a convention table or other 'one-shot' experience, though, so that would be one of the things I'd mention as part of my DM introduction spiel. -- Pauper [/QUOTE]
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