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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8028438" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>The entry on half orcs is one of those areas I think the concept is okay except that it's poorly phrased and worded. First, it <em>does</em> make clear that the base assumption is that Gruumsh has a supernatural influence on orcs. That the evil god whispers in their dreams to influence them. More on that later on down.</p><p></p><p>But then they get to the part of describing where they live:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Whether proving themselves among rough barbarian tribes or scrabbling to survive in the slums of larger cities, half-orcs get by on their physical might, their endurance, and the sheer determination they inherit from their human ancestry.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>When I first read that I thought okay - they're just showing two extremes. That no matter where they are, they can still be successful.</p><p></p><p>Then I noticed the title "Tribes and Slums". That the "sheer determination" is from their human ancestry. Hmm. So I think this is a clear example where I personally don't have an issue with the <em>concept</em> but think the wording could and should be changed. </p><p></p><p>Instead of "Tribes and Slums" why not just "Living among humans"?</p><p></p><p>Instead of the positive aspects being inherited from their human ancestry, why not from their mixed heritage? Also throw in a third option where they become pillars of the community because of their passion and drive. I get the whole "not feeling like they belong" which is similar to half elves. It appeals to people who feel like they've never fit in anywhere, which is probably more common than people realize.</p><p></p><p>Last, but not least, going back to the supernatural influence of Gruumsh. I think this could be expanded upon (along with other wording changes) in the orc section as a part of the reason the default alignment is CE. Leave it up to the DM and the campaign exactly how much influence Gruumsh has, or whether that influence could be somehow broken.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8028438, member: 6801845"] The entry on half orcs is one of those areas I think the concept is okay except that it's poorly phrased and worded. First, it [I]does[/I] make clear that the base assumption is that Gruumsh has a supernatural influence on orcs. That the evil god whispers in their dreams to influence them. More on that later on down. But then they get to the part of describing where they live: [INDENT]Whether proving themselves among rough barbarian tribes or scrabbling to survive in the slums of larger cities, half-orcs get by on their physical might, their endurance, and the sheer determination they inherit from their human ancestry.[/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] When I first read that I thought okay - they're just showing two extremes. That no matter where they are, they can still be successful. Then I noticed the title "Tribes and Slums". That the "sheer determination" is from their human ancestry. Hmm. So I think this is a clear example where I personally don't have an issue with the [I]concept[/I] but think the wording could and should be changed. Instead of "Tribes and Slums" why not just "Living among humans"? Instead of the positive aspects being inherited from their human ancestry, why not from their mixed heritage? Also throw in a third option where they become pillars of the community because of their passion and drive. I get the whole "not feeling like they belong" which is similar to half elves. It appeals to people who feel like they've never fit in anywhere, which is probably more common than people realize. Last, but not least, going back to the supernatural influence of Gruumsh. I think this could be expanded upon (along with other wording changes) in the orc section as a part of the reason the default alignment is CE. Leave it up to the DM and the campaign exactly how much influence Gruumsh has, or whether that influence could be somehow broken. [/QUOTE]
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