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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 7680835" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>It's occurred to me that I have been in this thread for several pages now...and have yet to weigh in (other than speculation) on the ACTUAL source of the thread: the UA 5e Ranger: Take 3!</p><p></p><p>So, very quickly, let's see....page 1...Intro, check. Design notes. Check, and always appreciated to get these glimpses into the thought process...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>D'OH! Had me right up to the last sentence.</p><p></p><p>Page 2... </p><p></p><p>The whowhat now? "...combines the concept of..." uhhhnnnooo. No, it doesn't. That might be what they were going for. They missed....by a lot. This is a shaman kind of thing to do...and as a Ranger archtype, I suppose, it's plausible...though I'd certainly prefer it as a Druid or Barbarian archetype (which it kinda already is, and is sort of directly copying/stepping on the creative space of the Totem Barb, imho)...but as the base Ranger <em>core</em> "lookit I can do" thing?! Not so much....Like, so very not.</p><p></p><p>Class Features (all of the fiddly bits at the beginning) mostly looks fine/the same. Light armors and shield only...<shrug> It's a start/thing and opens up the subclasses to bonus prof into Medium or Heavy armors, I guess. </p><p></p><p><em><strong>Ambuscade</strong></em>...are you ffffundamentally kidding me? A<em> free </em>round* before anyone else acts ?!..<em>.every</em> "round"/ initiative roll?! ...AND, in case <em>that </em>isn't completely enough broken for you, you're never surprised...ever.</p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite4" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":mad:" /><tick></p><p></p><p>*<span style="font-size: 9px">yes, I know, 5e doesn't have "rounds", but that's what they are/you know what I mean. </span></p><p></p><p><strong><em>Skirmisher's Stealth</em></strong>...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Does that...so you...but if...<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" /></p><p></p><p>Dear designers: Read that again...did you read it the first time?...No matter what you do...or anyone else does...your enemy doesn't see you. I can stand next to you with a flashing neon arrow-shaped sign saying "Ranger Here!" pointing to the guy in the 5' space next to me...who just attacked you, by the way...and they are still hidden?!?! </p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite4" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":mad:" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite4" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":mad:" /><tick. tick.></p><p></p><p><strong><em>Spirit Path/Companion...</em></strong>sooo, the ranger is the shaman base-class now?</p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite4" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":mad:" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite4" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":mad:" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite4" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":mad:" /><head explodes></p><p></p><p>Yeah. I'm out...Cranial combustion is my limit. Not even going to finish reading.</p><p></p><p>So, basically, this was posted just to give people to keep them busy/argue about on the internet for a month while they work on something else more important/worthwhile...Because, this? This can't be serious. There are buckets of other topics and material that I am sure they could produce than throwing out this ill-conceived and/or just plain brokenly <em>bad</em> third version of the ranger class. ...and yes, I'm using that word objectively. It has ludicrously "broken" overpowered mechanics and unnecessarily redefining [if not redundant to a totem barbarian] flavor. It is a <em>bad</em> class...of any name.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 7680835, member: 92511"] It's occurred to me that I have been in this thread for several pages now...and have yet to weigh in (other than speculation) on the ACTUAL source of the thread: the UA 5e Ranger: Take 3! So, very quickly, let's see....page 1...Intro, check. Design notes. Check, and always appreciated to get these glimpses into the thought process... D'OH! Had me right up to the last sentence. Page 2... The whowhat now? "...combines the concept of..." uhhhnnnooo. No, it doesn't. That might be what they were going for. They missed....by a lot. This is a shaman kind of thing to do...and as a Ranger archtype, I suppose, it's plausible...though I'd certainly prefer it as a Druid or Barbarian archetype (which it kinda already is, and is sort of directly copying/stepping on the creative space of the Totem Barb, imho)...but as the base Ranger [I]core[/I] "lookit I can do" thing?! Not so much....Like, so very not. Class Features (all of the fiddly bits at the beginning) mostly looks fine/the same. Light armors and shield only...<shrug> It's a start/thing and opens up the subclasses to bonus prof into Medium or Heavy armors, I guess. [I][B]Ambuscade[/B][/I]...are you ffffundamentally kidding me? A[I] free [/I]round* before anyone else acts ?!..[I].every[/I] "round"/ initiative roll?! ...AND, in case [I]that [/I]isn't completely enough broken for you, you're never surprised...ever. :mad:<tick> *[SIZE=1]yes, I know, 5e doesn't have "rounds", but that's what they are/you know what I mean. [/SIZE] [B][I]Skirmisher's Stealth[/I][/B]... Does that...so you...but if...:hmm: Dear designers: Read that again...did you read it the first time?...No matter what you do...or anyone else does...your enemy doesn't see you. I can stand next to you with a flashing neon arrow-shaped sign saying "Ranger Here!" pointing to the guy in the 5' space next to me...who just attacked you, by the way...and they are still hidden?!?! :mad::mad:<tick. tick.> [B][I]Spirit Path/Companion...[/I][/B]sooo, the ranger is the shaman base-class now? :mad::mad::mad:<head explodes> Yeah. I'm out...Cranial combustion is my limit. Not even going to finish reading. So, basically, this was posted just to give people to keep them busy/argue about on the internet for a month while they work on something else more important/worthwhile...Because, this? This can't be serious. There are buckets of other topics and material that I am sure they could produce than throwing out this ill-conceived and/or just plain brokenly [I]bad[/I] third version of the ranger class. ...and yes, I'm using that word objectively. It has ludicrously "broken" overpowered mechanics and unnecessarily redefining [if not redundant to a totem barbarian] flavor. It is a [I]bad[/I] class...of any name. [/QUOTE]
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