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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7704627" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Right, keep forgetting it is "end of next turn"</p><p></p><p>Still think Barbarian is plenty safe from the Samurai taking his spot</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not 100% sure I agree with that. There are plenty of melee brute type of enemies who are more than happy to stay in melee with a single target, and aren't too picky as to who that is. We've got damage auras and nasty saves that only happen if the person is within 30 ft. </p><p></p><p>Sure, marking wasn't officially in the game, but the Protection style was, and the idea that a creature is going to be in melee with the fighter. They aren't optimized for countering it, but they aren't necessarily helpless. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It isn't now "they know how" it is now "they are an expert/master". Gaining proficiency at level 7 is... +3? Let us assume you've only got a +2 because you wanted a high off save or you were building someone who was already planning on being good with that skill. You now have a +5, equal to having max physical possibility. </p><p></p><p>Yes, it is like saying a zebra is a black horse with white stripes instead of a white horse with black stripes, but Born to the Saddle is just knowing how to fall off an animal and mount up quickly. Handle Animal is what turns you into a friend of wild animals. </p><p></p><p>But, that is aside from the point. I have no idea what the 3.5 Knight could do, never saw one, so I don't know what your expectations are. This fits mine. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, not quite.</p><p></p><p>Let's say 18 rounds of advantage is accurate, that still probably only counts as 9 rounds of resistance. You don't usually take S/P/B damage on your turn, unless you are taking Attacks of Opportunity. </p><p></p><p>And even then, if we just look at lv 3 abilities, the Barbarian still gets bonus damage and advantage on Strength Checks and Saves, and whatever sub-class powers they get.</p><p></p><p>And fewer short rests or misuse of resources drops faster for the Samurai than the Barbarian. </p><p></p><p>They do overlap, but I don't think the Samurai overshadows the Barbarian.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 7704627, member: 6801228"] Right, keep forgetting it is "end of next turn" Still think Barbarian is plenty safe from the Samurai taking his spot I'm not 100% sure I agree with that. There are plenty of melee brute type of enemies who are more than happy to stay in melee with a single target, and aren't too picky as to who that is. We've got damage auras and nasty saves that only happen if the person is within 30 ft. Sure, marking wasn't officially in the game, but the Protection style was, and the idea that a creature is going to be in melee with the fighter. They aren't optimized for countering it, but they aren't necessarily helpless. It isn't now "they know how" it is now "they are an expert/master". Gaining proficiency at level 7 is... +3? Let us assume you've only got a +2 because you wanted a high off save or you were building someone who was already planning on being good with that skill. You now have a +5, equal to having max physical possibility. Yes, it is like saying a zebra is a black horse with white stripes instead of a white horse with black stripes, but Born to the Saddle is just knowing how to fall off an animal and mount up quickly. Handle Animal is what turns you into a friend of wild animals. But, that is aside from the point. I have no idea what the 3.5 Knight could do, never saw one, so I don't know what your expectations are. This fits mine. Well, not quite. Let's say 18 rounds of advantage is accurate, that still probably only counts as 9 rounds of resistance. You don't usually take S/P/B damage on your turn, unless you are taking Attacks of Opportunity. And even then, if we just look at lv 3 abilities, the Barbarian still gets bonus damage and advantage on Strength Checks and Saves, and whatever sub-class powers they get. And fewer short rests or misuse of resources drops faster for the Samurai than the Barbarian. They do overlap, but I don't think the Samurai overshadows the Barbarian. [/QUOTE]
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