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<blockquote data-quote="Pauper" data-source="post: 7709369" data-attributes="member: 17607"><p>It seems more likely that someone just spit this thing out in a few hours by comparing two groups of critters with the same CR.</p><p></p><p>For example, if a unit is outnumbered, that pretty much only gives either advantage or disadvantage on that unit's combat roll; it doesn't provide any other bonus or penalty. So a unit of Cult Fanatics (CR 2; BR = 400) surrounded by Tribal Warriors (CR 1/8; BR = 20) will still easily destroy them all, despite having disadvantage on most attacks and the Tribal Warriors having advantage on nearly all of theirs -- unless you decide that there is at least one unit of Tribal Warriors that has Unbreakable morale and a commander with 18 or higher Charisma. (There is nothing in the mass combat rules that suggests that a morale check automatically fails on a '1'; the rules explicitly compare the morale check to an ability check, which explicitly doesn't fail on a '1' in the core rules.) In *that* case, the Cult Fanatics can keep smashing them and forcing morale saves that the Warriors can't fail, despite their BR dropping quickly below zero and well into the negative numbers, while the Warriors remain completely incapable of inflicting any effect on the Fanatics. Combat is a draw.</p><p></p><p>If you're representing armies with units of the same size and CR on both (or all) sides, then maybe this system is workable. Trying to do anything remotely 'fantastic' with this system, though (say, simulate the Battle of Five Armies), and you quickly find the system unhelpful and effectively unusable.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p>Pauper</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pauper, post: 7709369, member: 17607"] It seems more likely that someone just spit this thing out in a few hours by comparing two groups of critters with the same CR. For example, if a unit is outnumbered, that pretty much only gives either advantage or disadvantage on that unit's combat roll; it doesn't provide any other bonus or penalty. So a unit of Cult Fanatics (CR 2; BR = 400) surrounded by Tribal Warriors (CR 1/8; BR = 20) will still easily destroy them all, despite having disadvantage on most attacks and the Tribal Warriors having advantage on nearly all of theirs -- unless you decide that there is at least one unit of Tribal Warriors that has Unbreakable morale and a commander with 18 or higher Charisma. (There is nothing in the mass combat rules that suggests that a morale check automatically fails on a '1'; the rules explicitly compare the morale check to an ability check, which explicitly doesn't fail on a '1' in the core rules.) In *that* case, the Cult Fanatics can keep smashing them and forcing morale saves that the Warriors can't fail, despite their BR dropping quickly below zero and well into the negative numbers, while the Warriors remain completely incapable of inflicting any effect on the Fanatics. Combat is a draw. If you're representing armies with units of the same size and CR on both (or all) sides, then maybe this system is workable. Trying to do anything remotely 'fantastic' with this system, though (say, simulate the Battle of Five Armies), and you quickly find the system unhelpful and effectively unusable. -- Pauper [/QUOTE]
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