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<blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 9216326" data-attributes="member: 7026594"><p>Agreed. I've agreed on most of the things you wrote, including some of the things you repeated in this post.</p><p></p><p>And indeed Verhoeven worked with the screenwriter to change the things that happen in the book to better suit his vision, his "war makes fascists of us all" satire.</p><p></p><p>As I disengage I'll ask the audience's indulgence to <a href="http://www.kentaurus.com/troopers.htm" target="_blank">quote </a>a quick comparison of a scene in the book vs the movie, and folks can judge the degree to which Verhoeven's movie engages with and responds to the text.</p><p></p><p>--------</p><p><em>"Zim and the recruits are practicing with throwing knives, when one of the recruits asks "what possible use" is learning how to use throwing knives when "one professor type can do so much more just by pushing a button?" In the book, Zim responds (in part):</em></p><p></p><p><em>Notice the salient points of Zim's response: While surprised that the recruit doesn't know the answer at this stage in his training, he does not discourage the recruit from asking questions or thinking -- he treats it as a serious and reasonable question, which deserves a comprehensive, thoughtful, and respectful response about the role of civilian control of the military, and the necessity for the military to train for something less than all-out high-tech warfare.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>In Paul Verhoeven's Starship Troopers, on the other hand, Zim tells the recruit to put his hand flat against a nearby vertical surface, and with a deft throw of the knife pins the recruit's hand in place. While the recruit is screaming with pain, the knife sticking out of the back of his hand, Zim laughs and says something to the effect of "because that professor type can't push that button if there is a knife sticking out of it!"</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mannahnin, post: 9216326, member: 7026594"] Agreed. I've agreed on most of the things you wrote, including some of the things you repeated in this post. And indeed Verhoeven worked with the screenwriter to change the things that happen in the book to better suit his vision, his "war makes fascists of us all" satire. As I disengage I'll ask the audience's indulgence to [URL='http://www.kentaurus.com/troopers.htm']quote [/URL]a quick comparison of a scene in the book vs the movie, and folks can judge the degree to which Verhoeven's movie engages with and responds to the text. -------- [I]"Zim and the recruits are practicing with throwing knives, when one of the recruits asks "what possible use" is learning how to use throwing knives when "one professor type can do so much more just by pushing a button?" In the book, Zim responds (in part):[/I] [I]Notice the salient points of Zim's response: While surprised that the recruit doesn't know the answer at this stage in his training, he does not discourage the recruit from asking questions or thinking -- he treats it as a serious and reasonable question, which deserves a comprehensive, thoughtful, and respectful response about the role of civilian control of the military, and the necessity for the military to train for something less than all-out high-tech warfare. In Paul Verhoeven's Starship Troopers, on the other hand, Zim tells the recruit to put his hand flat against a nearby vertical surface, and with a deft throw of the knife pins the recruit's hand in place. While the recruit is screaming with pain, the knife sticking out of the back of his hand, Zim laughs and says something to the effect of "because that professor type can't push that button if there is a knife sticking out of it!"[/I] [/QUOTE]
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