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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 3822844" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>That's a detail of the Starwars implementation, but this doesn't mean that's how it stays.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's only a matter of definition. Trained in a skill is the new mid-point. Focused is maxed out, having a reroll ability is "the new Skill Focus". And while you have the option do this in 3rd edition, it is usually only done to either get a synergy bonus, or to be able to succeed at basic tasks. You also don't have to train to mid-point any more, if it's just the numerical bonus you were interested in.</p><p>The only lost option here is being able to perform skill checks trained "cheaply" and relying on your ability bonus for the rest. (I am not saying that this was a bad thing. I certainly enjoyed it when playing Wizards, and I think my DMs didn't mind, either. As a DM, I certainly didn't complain)</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's also a detail of the current system. A Star Wars house rule I liked was allowing to pick Skill Training instead of a class feat when multiclassing. Might become a core rule in 4th edition (but I am not promising anything <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> )</p><p></p><p>I think the options lost are low compared to the things won.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 3822844, member: 710"] That's a detail of the Starwars implementation, but this doesn't mean that's how it stays. That's only a matter of definition. Trained in a skill is the new mid-point. Focused is maxed out, having a reroll ability is "the new Skill Focus". And while you have the option do this in 3rd edition, it is usually only done to either get a synergy bonus, or to be able to succeed at basic tasks. You also don't have to train to mid-point any more, if it's just the numerical bonus you were interested in. The only lost option here is being able to perform skill checks trained "cheaply" and relying on your ability bonus for the rest. (I am not saying that this was a bad thing. I certainly enjoyed it when playing Wizards, and I think my DMs didn't mind, either. As a DM, I certainly didn't complain) That's also a detail of the current system. A Star Wars house rule I liked was allowing to pick Skill Training instead of a class feat when multiclassing. Might become a core rule in 4th edition (but I am not promising anything :) ) I think the options lost are low compared to the things won. [/QUOTE]
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