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<blockquote data-quote="Eltab" data-source="post: 7514457" data-attributes="member: 6803337"><p>In order,</p><p></p><p>In a later novel (forget which one offhand) an individual proclaims, "I'm not just a data point, you can't predict me!" Cut scene to a Hidden Foundation lab where some scientists are looking at a blackboard full of equations and saying "What do you think he will do?" "Now, you know that a sample size of one zaps the math."</p><p><em>Foundation's</em> themes ought to interact not-smoothly with American society from any point of time. The point was that most people needed to be guided for their own good. It would be enlightening if the movie(s) showed some of the real-life tools to manipulate peoples' actions and opinion - from the traditional Mob visit wearing brass knuckles -to- a company planning out an advertising campaign -to- Government-sponsored propaganda efforts.</p><p></p><p>Asimov eventually states (in the prequel, iirc) that the end result of the Foundation will not just be an era of peace and prosperity under a Restored Galactic Government, he also reveals that the goal of the Hidden Foundation was to have <em>its members</em> as the unified galaxy's natural ruling class. There is a wide-open door right there to have a debate over how well / poorly that idea works out, with examples. But it may bore most audiences until the hero makes a Dramatic Statement to summarize his position.</p><p></p><p>You seem to be doing all right at communicating. If what I say wasn't about what you meant, it most likely means <strong>I</strong> don't get it ! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eltab, post: 7514457, member: 6803337"] In order, In a later novel (forget which one offhand) an individual proclaims, "I'm not just a data point, you can't predict me!" Cut scene to a Hidden Foundation lab where some scientists are looking at a blackboard full of equations and saying "What do you think he will do?" "Now, you know that a sample size of one zaps the math." [I]Foundation's[/I] themes ought to interact not-smoothly with American society from any point of time. The point was that most people needed to be guided for their own good. It would be enlightening if the movie(s) showed some of the real-life tools to manipulate peoples' actions and opinion - from the traditional Mob visit wearing brass knuckles -to- a company planning out an advertising campaign -to- Government-sponsored propaganda efforts. Asimov eventually states (in the prequel, iirc) that the end result of the Foundation will not just be an era of peace and prosperity under a Restored Galactic Government, he also reveals that the goal of the Hidden Foundation was to have [I]its members[/I] as the unified galaxy's natural ruling class. There is a wide-open door right there to have a debate over how well / poorly that idea works out, with examples. But it may bore most audiences until the hero makes a Dramatic Statement to summarize his position. You seem to be doing all right at communicating. If what I say wasn't about what you meant, it most likely means [B]I[/B] don't get it ! :p [/QUOTE]
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