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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8787308" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>Irrelevant. It’s needlessly reductive. </p><p></p><p>Yes, they do. They can, optionally, find and train a spirit instead of a mundane beast. The default is still very much not summoning. </p><p></p><p>Except that is completely false. Rangers range, in the context of protecting, and in relation to the wild places of the world. This is true of all rangers in 5e. </p><p></p><p>Good thing “type of ranger” is distinct from “type”, primarily in that it’s much more specific. </p><p></p><p>Literally the worst lore widget in 5e. </p><p></p><p>Symmetry is for buildings. </p><p></p><p>And yet, all paladins are basically the same thing. </p><p></p><p>No, it cannot. Forced Symmetry, which is all the sort of consistency that demands all subclasses work the same is, is the assassin of creativity. </p><p></p><p>If kept in check and used where necessary, sure. If focused on as a design goal, it leads to terrible design like Bitopia, and all the other crap in D&D that exists because someone said, “the existence of a lawful good place implies the existence of a chaotic evil place” and no one had the good sense to laugh. </p><p></p><p>That isn’t quite what I said. Someone who ranges through the wilds to protect the wilds and people, is going to reflect the wilds through which they range, and that reflection will to varying degrees be about the terrain, what endangers that terrain, and what tools and methods the ranger needs to deal with those threats. It makes sense that some rangers focus harder than others on adapting to the darkness that many monsters use to hunt in, while a ranger that protects places tied to the Feywild would have Fey glamours and the like, and that some rangers focus harder on a given type of tool, such as tactics for fighting a broad type of monster or training a creature or spirit to help them fight and hunt. </p><p></p><p>It makes more sense than “all subclasses are like Domains” style classes, especially in the specific case in question. </p><p></p><p>They don’t need any special justification. It’s built into the whole premise of the class.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8787308, member: 6704184"] Irrelevant. It’s needlessly reductive. Yes, they do. They can, optionally, find and train a spirit instead of a mundane beast. The default is still very much not summoning. Except that is completely false. Rangers range, in the context of protecting, and in relation to the wild places of the world. This is true of all rangers in 5e. Good thing “type of ranger” is distinct from “type”, primarily in that it’s much more specific. Literally the worst lore widget in 5e. Symmetry is for buildings. And yet, all paladins are basically the same thing. No, it cannot. Forced Symmetry, which is all the sort of consistency that demands all subclasses work the same is, is the assassin of creativity. If kept in check and used where necessary, sure. If focused on as a design goal, it leads to terrible design like Bitopia, and all the other crap in D&D that exists because someone said, “the existence of a lawful good place implies the existence of a chaotic evil place” and no one had the good sense to laugh. That isn’t quite what I said. Someone who ranges through the wilds to protect the wilds and people, is going to reflect the wilds through which they range, and that reflection will to varying degrees be about the terrain, what endangers that terrain, and what tools and methods the ranger needs to deal with those threats. It makes sense that some rangers focus harder than others on adapting to the darkness that many monsters use to hunt in, while a ranger that protects places tied to the Feywild would have Fey glamours and the like, and that some rangers focus harder on a given type of tool, such as tactics for fighting a broad type of monster or training a creature or spirit to help them fight and hunt. It makes more sense than “all subclasses are like Domains” style classes, especially in the specific case in question. They don’t need any special justification. It’s built into the whole premise of the class. [/QUOTE]
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