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<blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 8331046" data-attributes="member: 11760"><p>Jesus, I was around when "retcon" was coined. Gross and weird to have the OED "set" its definition incorrectly like this.</p><p></p><p>The point of retcon -- "retroactive continuity," which it feels like the OED ought to be aware of and mention, along with its comic book origins* -- is that it goes back and changes previously established background. New information is not a retcon, it's simply new information.</p><p></p><p>If Van Richten's said that Victor was <em>always </em>Viktra Modenheim, it would be a retcon. But the book doesn't say anything of the sort -- it doesn't address it at all.</p><p></p><p>I'm guessing "fridged" will get screwed up next. **</p><p></p><p>* The trope originator is DC's Crisis on Infinite Earths, which established a new timeline for existing characters. Jason Todd, for instance, went from being more or less a carbon copy of Dick Grayson, complete with circus origin (DC Comics: We love the circus!), to having always actually having been a juvenile delinquent who stole the Batmobile's wheels. (Which is a separate sort of bananas.) In the new continuity, Jason had never been the circus kid.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, as far as I know, we never knew anything about Barry Allen's family until the late 1990s, when the "failed to save his mom" thing was added to his origin. That wasn't a retcon to the Flash (although there have been plenty of those), but simply new information.</p><p></p><p>** "Fridged" refers to Major Force killing a Green Lantern's girlfriend and literally sticking her body in the refrigerator for Kyle to find. (It's not clear if Major Force cleared out the rest of the fridge first or what.) This then makes Kyle Have Feelings and Be Motivated to stop a murderous supervillain; apparently a woman close to him needed to die to motivate him. So now, when a woman (it's almost always a woman) is killed off simply to get the hero up off the couch, it's a "fridging" and is pretty universally seen as a sign of weak writing. (People will argue a certain death <em>isn't</em> a fridging, rather than justifying fridging as somehow not sexist -- arguably misogynist -- and lazy.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whizbang Dustyboots, post: 8331046, member: 11760"] Jesus, I was around when "retcon" was coined. Gross and weird to have the OED "set" its definition incorrectly like this. The point of retcon -- "retroactive continuity," which it feels like the OED ought to be aware of and mention, along with its comic book origins* -- is that it goes back and changes previously established background. New information is not a retcon, it's simply new information. If Van Richten's said that Victor was [I]always [/I]Viktra Modenheim, it would be a retcon. But the book doesn't say anything of the sort -- it doesn't address it at all. I'm guessing "fridged" will get screwed up next. ** * The trope originator is DC's Crisis on Infinite Earths, which established a new timeline for existing characters. Jason Todd, for instance, went from being more or less a carbon copy of Dick Grayson, complete with circus origin (DC Comics: We love the circus!), to having always actually having been a juvenile delinquent who stole the Batmobile's wheels. (Which is a separate sort of bananas.) In the new continuity, Jason had never been the circus kid. On the other hand, as far as I know, we never knew anything about Barry Allen's family until the late 1990s, when the "failed to save his mom" thing was added to his origin. That wasn't a retcon to the Flash (although there have been plenty of those), but simply new information. ** "Fridged" refers to Major Force killing a Green Lantern's girlfriend and literally sticking her body in the refrigerator for Kyle to find. (It's not clear if Major Force cleared out the rest of the fridge first or what.) This then makes Kyle Have Feelings and Be Motivated to stop a murderous supervillain; apparently a woman close to him needed to die to motivate him. So now, when a woman (it's almost always a woman) is killed off simply to get the hero up off the couch, it's a "fridging" and is pretty universally seen as a sign of weak writing. (People will argue a certain death [I]isn't[/I] a fridging, rather than justifying fridging as somehow not sexist -- arguably misogynist -- and lazy.) [/QUOTE]
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