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<blockquote data-quote="Steve Conan Trustrum" data-source="post: 7733605" data-attributes="member: 1620"><p>First off, what you call "quibbles" I call "the actual legal documents that determined how products using WotC's IP at the time were REQUIRED to be published." Those "quibbles" actually sunk a few publishers when they got them wrong.</p><p></p><p>And Dragon and Dungeon magazines, you say?</p><p></p><p>Those wouldn't happen to be two magazines entirely identified with WotC brands, would they? Kinda like the only reason Paizo gained any traction with the magazines is because they jumped in with an recognized brand with an established market behind them instead of having to release their own unique brands for their own magazines and then having to build those brands from scratch. Something like that?</p><p></p><p>And Paizo is making more money off of the OGL and Pathfinder than they did off of Dragon and Dungeon. Ask gamers today what they associate with Paizo, and do you think your most likely answer is Dragon and Dungeon magazines, or Pathfinder?</p><p></p><p>And now frame those answers in terms of the fact that all three are BRANDS.</p><p></p><p>From there, consider if the answers would have been the same -- if Paizo would even be the same company -- if they hadn't been able to release Pathfinder product with their own branding on the covers, especially given they would already be limited by the venue through which the product could be release through (one entirely branded towards their strongest market competition.)</p><p></p><p>Hmmmmmm ... now I wonder if any of that has any relevancy to my point about building brand loyalty for 3pp and how it affects the established audiences they've built behind those brands when they can't display those brands on the key visual for selling their 5e product ...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steve Conan Trustrum, post: 7733605, member: 1620"] First off, what you call "quibbles" I call "the actual legal documents that determined how products using WotC's IP at the time were REQUIRED to be published." Those "quibbles" actually sunk a few publishers when they got them wrong. And Dragon and Dungeon magazines, you say? Those wouldn't happen to be two magazines entirely identified with WotC brands, would they? Kinda like the only reason Paizo gained any traction with the magazines is because they jumped in with an recognized brand with an established market behind them instead of having to release their own unique brands for their own magazines and then having to build those brands from scratch. Something like that? And Paizo is making more money off of the OGL and Pathfinder than they did off of Dragon and Dungeon. Ask gamers today what they associate with Paizo, and do you think your most likely answer is Dragon and Dungeon magazines, or Pathfinder? And now frame those answers in terms of the fact that all three are BRANDS. From there, consider if the answers would have been the same -- if Paizo would even be the same company -- if they hadn't been able to release Pathfinder product with their own branding on the covers, especially given they would already be limited by the venue through which the product could be release through (one entirely branded towards their strongest market competition.) Hmmmmmm ... now I wonder if any of that has any relevancy to my point about building brand loyalty for 3pp and how it affects the established audiences they've built behind those brands when they can't display those brands on the key visual for selling their 5e product ... [/QUOTE]
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