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<blockquote data-quote="Lylandra" data-source="post: 7377134" data-attributes="member: 6816692"><p>Hm, and there I was, reading the PrC a year ago and then wrote it off because I thought Threefold presence had more drawbacks than benefits (unless you were trying to follow three fleeing enemies or harassing three different casters/ranged opponents with your AoOs). You still get only one standard action for your whole three-fold character after your move after all. </p><p></p><p>Thinking about the Zeitgeist Prestige classes, they work much better in their incarnation of the 4e paragon paths in my opinion. As the campaign actually promises you to get your sweet 20th level perk in Pathfinder (which is rather rare), it feels like you lose more than you gain. Especially as a caster. Even if they offer some really great fluff and utility options.</p><p> </p><p>Also, they suffer a bit from the fact that the theme feats are not class specific (and they shouldn't be!) which makes designing a PrC for a certain feat a tough task. In my opinion, they'd work so much better as enhancements of your theme feat which unlock on an every-soandso-level basis, giving you a thematic progression in addition to your class and thus rooting you deeper into the setting. </p><p></p><p>Regarding your build: While your skirmisher rogue is a really cool idea, I have to agree that uncanny tumble and circling mongoose don't <em>grant</em> you AoOs. You do get a benefit from uncanny because you can deny your opponent's dex bonus which enables you to sneak attack them without a flanking buddy and with a bonus to your hit. </p><p></p><p>What would work is the swashbuckler's (the hybrid class, not the rogue archetype) parry&riposte where you could strike back as an immediate after you parry an AoO. </p><p></p><p>I'd also recommend you daredevil's softpaws which are rather cheap and complement your build nicely.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lylandra, post: 7377134, member: 6816692"] Hm, and there I was, reading the PrC a year ago and then wrote it off because I thought Threefold presence had more drawbacks than benefits (unless you were trying to follow three fleeing enemies or harassing three different casters/ranged opponents with your AoOs). You still get only one standard action for your whole three-fold character after your move after all. Thinking about the Zeitgeist Prestige classes, they work much better in their incarnation of the 4e paragon paths in my opinion. As the campaign actually promises you to get your sweet 20th level perk in Pathfinder (which is rather rare), it feels like you lose more than you gain. Especially as a caster. Even if they offer some really great fluff and utility options. Also, they suffer a bit from the fact that the theme feats are not class specific (and they shouldn't be!) which makes designing a PrC for a certain feat a tough task. In my opinion, they'd work so much better as enhancements of your theme feat which unlock on an every-soandso-level basis, giving you a thematic progression in addition to your class and thus rooting you deeper into the setting. Regarding your build: While your skirmisher rogue is a really cool idea, I have to agree that uncanny tumble and circling mongoose don't [I]grant[/I] you AoOs. You do get a benefit from uncanny because you can deny your opponent's dex bonus which enables you to sneak attack them without a flanking buddy and with a bonus to your hit. What would work is the swashbuckler's (the hybrid class, not the rogue archetype) parry&riposte where you could strike back as an immediate after you parry an AoO. I'd also recommend you daredevil's softpaws which are rather cheap and complement your build nicely. [/QUOTE]
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