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Vote Up a 5e-Alike: Fighter Draft 2, plus Archetypes (and a poll)
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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 9194613" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>I hadn't gotten that much criticism about the basic class--or if there was criticism, I honestly missed it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>These archetypes were built with the idea that there is <em>only </em>a Warrior class, not multiple martial classes. So everyone is going to have maneuver dice. </p><p></p><p>If it turns out that people hate the idea of only have Warriors and want there to be multiple martial classes, the Holy Warrior and Rager will go away. But honestly, I hope that this isn't the case... making classes is hard!</p><p></p><p></p><p>That would be my ideal as well, but I don't <em>think </em>that most people are into that. Next poll, I'll go into that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe so. It's part of the standard 5e paladin and I <em>do </em>kind of like it, though; without that sort of dedication, they're fighters with a ton of abilities and not much flavor. My idea was to have something similar for clerics and warlocks (whether they're their own classes or just archetypes). </p><p></p><p></p><p>Fair enough. Naming things isn't my strong suit.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Good points.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As I see it, if your save is roll under your stat, then it's going to be pretty easy to save against most things, especially if you start with a high stat. It doesn't matter if you're saving against a cantrip cast by a 1st-level caster or by something super-powerful cast by a 20th-level caster. </p><p></p><p>So either saves still have to be based on the caster, in which case your save DC gets lower as you go up in level (a possibility), <em>or </em>each spell/maneuver/magic item/whatever could list a bonus or penalty to the save, <em>or </em>each class gets their own Fort/Ref/Will save table (modified by your stats), much the same way that they did back in AD&D. This last one might be the easiest way to go about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 9194613, member: 6915329"] I hadn't gotten that much criticism about the basic class--or if there was criticism, I honestly missed it. These archetypes were built with the idea that there is [I]only [/I]a Warrior class, not multiple martial classes. So everyone is going to have maneuver dice. If it turns out that people hate the idea of only have Warriors and want there to be multiple martial classes, the Holy Warrior and Rager will go away. But honestly, I hope that this isn't the case... making classes is hard! That would be my ideal as well, but I don't [I]think [/I]that most people are into that. Next poll, I'll go into that. Maybe so. It's part of the standard 5e paladin and I [I]do [/I]kind of like it, though; without that sort of dedication, they're fighters with a ton of abilities and not much flavor. My idea was to have something similar for clerics and warlocks (whether they're their own classes or just archetypes). Fair enough. Naming things isn't my strong suit. Good points. As I see it, if your save is roll under your stat, then it's going to be pretty easy to save against most things, especially if you start with a high stat. It doesn't matter if you're saving against a cantrip cast by a 1st-level caster or by something super-powerful cast by a 20th-level caster. So either saves still have to be based on the caster, in which case your save DC gets lower as you go up in level (a possibility), [I]or [/I]each spell/maneuver/magic item/whatever could list a bonus or penalty to the save, [I]or [/I]each class gets their own Fort/Ref/Will save table (modified by your stats), much the same way that they did back in AD&D. This last one might be the easiest way to go about it. [/QUOTE]
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