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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9034439" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>So Wall of Force has generated a lot of controversy in one of my games and it is rather difficult to logic through. For the purposes of this discussion assume there is a wall of force hemisphere around an enemy who is occupying the entire space under/behind the wall. With that in mind, here is my logic on each of these examples:</p><p></p><p>I can see the enemy so can I target the enemy with a spell that requires me to see the target - <strong>NO</strong> because he has full cover</p><p></p><p>Send an AOE into the sphere - <strong>No </strong>the space you are targeting is behind full cover - If you try this the effect is centered on your side of the wall (per PHB)</p><p></p><p>Say his name and target him with Psychic Lance by saying his name - <strong>YES </strong>This is iffy, but the cover is irrelevant in this case I think do to the specifics involving this spell. Certainly you can target other individuals with full cover so I think you could here as well.</p><p></p><p>Can I misty Step or Teleport or Dimension Door or Plane Shift or Vortex Warp someone or myself into the Wall of Force - <strong>Yes, </strong>reading the rules this might be iffy, but normally Teleport and Plane Shift are used to target areas with full cover so it seems an exclusion would apply here or these spells are seriously nerfed.</p><p></p><p>I cast Vortex Warp to move the creature inside the wall of force out - <strong>No </strong>you can't target the creature inside because he has full cover</p><p></p><p>I cast plane shift on myself and then cast Gate to bring the guy out of the Wall of Force - <strong>Yes</strong></p><p></p><p>I cast fireball just outside the wall of force does the enemy burn -<strong> No </strong>physical effects can't penetrate the wall</p><p></p><p>I cast lightning bolt, does it get him -<strong> No</strong> it hits the wall and stops.</p><p></p><p>I cast silent image or minor illusion or major image on my side of the wall, does the creature can see the illusion - <strong>Yes </strong>the wall is invisible and the creature will view the illusion as if the wall wasn't there.</p><p></p><p>I cast Fear or Hypnotic Pattern outside the wall but its AOE extends into the wall, is he frightened/charmed - <strong>Yes </strong>the Wall is invisible so the creature on the other side sees either the phantasmal image (Fear) or the twisting pattern of colors (Hypnotic Pattern) on the other side of the wall and is affected by them.</p><p></p><p>Have I got these right?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9034439, member: 7030563"] So Wall of Force has generated a lot of controversy in one of my games and it is rather difficult to logic through. For the purposes of this discussion assume there is a wall of force hemisphere around an enemy who is occupying the entire space under/behind the wall. With that in mind, here is my logic on each of these examples: I can see the enemy so can I target the enemy with a spell that requires me to see the target - [B]NO[/B] because he has full cover Send an AOE into the sphere - [B]No [/B]the space you are targeting is behind full cover - If you try this the effect is centered on your side of the wall (per PHB) Say his name and target him with Psychic Lance by saying his name - [B]YES [/B]This is iffy, but the cover is irrelevant in this case I think do to the specifics involving this spell. Certainly you can target other individuals with full cover so I think you could here as well. Can I misty Step or Teleport or Dimension Door or Plane Shift or Vortex Warp someone or myself into the Wall of Force - [B]Yes, [/B]reading the rules this might be iffy, but normally Teleport and Plane Shift are used to target areas with full cover so it seems an exclusion would apply here or these spells are seriously nerfed. I cast Vortex Warp to move the creature inside the wall of force out - [B]No [/B]you can't target the creature inside because he has full cover I cast plane shift on myself and then cast Gate to bring the guy out of the Wall of Force - [B]Yes[/B] I cast fireball just outside the wall of force does the enemy burn -[B] No [/B]physical effects can't penetrate the wall I cast lightning bolt, does it get him -[B] No[/B] it hits the wall and stops. I cast silent image or minor illusion or major image on my side of the wall, does the creature can see the illusion - [B]Yes [/B]the wall is invisible and the creature will view the illusion as if the wall wasn't there. I cast Fear or Hypnotic Pattern outside the wall but its AOE extends into the wall, is he frightened/charmed - [B]Yes [/B]the Wall is invisible so the creature on the other side sees either the phantasmal image (Fear) or the twisting pattern of colors (Hypnotic Pattern) on the other side of the wall and is affected by them. Have I got these right? [/QUOTE]
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