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<blockquote data-quote="Xorn" data-source="post: 4344429" data-attributes="member: 61231"><p>It depends on your interpretation of Stealth.</p><p></p><p>Does Stealth allow you to hide after being noticed without blocking all LoS to the viewer?</p><p></p><p>If yes: You need to "move" stealthily (move action) to move without the target seeing it, and you have to have cover/concealment first. So you have to move, gain shadow walk concealment, then move some MORE "stealthily" to hide.</p><p></p><p>In no: You need to make the target lose sight of you in order to use stealth to move (Stealth success AVOIDS notice, doesn't remove it) without detection, so that's Bluff, Total Concealment, or Superior Cover.</p><p></p><p>The first version is closest to what the CSRs claim is "rules as intended", but they have contradicted each other and the books. Either way, you need to START the action in cover/concealment to do an action stealthily (hiding would be moving without detection, in my opinion, a move action).</p><p></p><p>Anyway, that's the two real camps on Stealth. Pick the one that works for you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Xorn, post: 4344429, member: 61231"] It depends on your interpretation of Stealth. Does Stealth allow you to hide after being noticed without blocking all LoS to the viewer? If yes: You need to "move" stealthily (move action) to move without the target seeing it, and you have to have cover/concealment first. So you have to move, gain shadow walk concealment, then move some MORE "stealthily" to hide. In no: You need to make the target lose sight of you in order to use stealth to move (Stealth success AVOIDS notice, doesn't remove it) without detection, so that's Bluff, Total Concealment, or Superior Cover. The first version is closest to what the CSRs claim is "rules as intended", but they have contradicted each other and the books. Either way, you need to START the action in cover/concealment to do an action stealthily (hiding would be moving without detection, in my opinion, a move action). Anyway, that's the two real camps on Stealth. Pick the one that works for you. [/QUOTE]
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