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<blockquote data-quote="the_redbeard" data-source="post: 4344436" data-attributes="member: 22644"><p>There is no fluff for the Shadow Walk ability, so whether you gather shadows or partially walk into the Shadowfell is not described. You could be disappearing.</p><p></p><p>Here is a <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showpost.php?p=4299647&postcount=7" target="_blank">post</a> that asks your question to Wizard customer service.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The poster Innuit at the WoTC forum's summed it up very briefly:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My addition:</p><p>Stealth is not invisibility. Without total concealment, if your perception beats the stealther (not by 10, just beats it), you are revealed. With invisibilty (or total concealment) perception over 10 only gives you the square.</p><p></p><p>If you keep hitting monsters from stealth, pretty quickly they will either use minor actions for active perception rolls or even ready an attack to use a ranged attack or charge you when you reveal yourself for an attack.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Stealth is not just avoids notice. You keep selectively quoting the PHB.</p><p></p><p>Page 188</p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is a lot more than simply "avoid notice." Your selective quoting relegates stealth to being like using bluff for a distraction.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: red">Stealth is (to quote Monty Python) the art of not being seen.</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The actual rule is (page 188)</p><p>Stealth: Part of whatever action you are trying to</p><p>perform stealthily.</p><p></p><p>Since you need cover or concealment, it typically is a move action. But not always. If you were behind cover and were attempting to disarm a trap, you could use stealth to remain hidden from view while disarming the trap.</p><p></p><p>CSRs are not perfect. But their reputation of contradiction is exaggerated - how many contradictions have you actually found?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="the_redbeard, post: 4344436, member: 22644"] There is no fluff for the Shadow Walk ability, so whether you gather shadows or partially walk into the Shadowfell is not described. You could be disappearing. Here is a [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/showpost.php?p=4299647&postcount=7]post[/url] that asks your question to Wizard customer service. The poster Innuit at the WoTC forum's summed it up very briefly: My addition: Stealth is not invisibility. Without total concealment, if your perception beats the stealther (not by 10, just beats it), you are revealed. With invisibilty (or total concealment) perception over 10 only gives you the square. If you keep hitting monsters from stealth, pretty quickly they will either use minor actions for active perception rolls or even ready an attack to use a ranged attack or charge you when you reveal yourself for an attack. Stealth is not just avoids notice. You keep selectively quoting the PHB. Page 188 Which is a lot more than simply "avoid notice." Your selective quoting relegates stealth to being like using bluff for a distraction. [color=red]Stealth is (to quote Monty Python) the art of not being seen.[/color] The actual rule is (page 188) Stealth: Part of whatever action you are trying to perform stealthily. Since you need cover or concealment, it typically is a move action. But not always. If you were behind cover and were attempting to disarm a trap, you could use stealth to remain hidden from view while disarming the trap. CSRs are not perfect. But their reputation of contradiction is exaggerated - how many contradictions have you actually found? [/QUOTE]
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