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<blockquote data-quote="Khisanth the Ancient" data-source="post: 7696558" data-attributes="member: 11368"><p>The thing is that Gandalf technically has tremendous power but (except against the Balrog) is forbidden to use it. So I think it's accurate to say that (except for that one battle, where he throws lightning and stuff around for ages) he never does anything that a 5th level wizard couldn't do - but not that he actually <em>is</em> one.</p><p></p><p>Also, putting Sauron at 7th-8th level doesn't allow enough room for the power scale that exists between the characters.</p><p></p><p>That article was written back in the "name level" days when 9th-10th was very exceptional. Using that scale I'd suggest something like this...</p><p></p><p>Sauron - 15+ [he is overwhelmingly more powerful than any other being in Middle-Earth in the Third Age]</p><p>Gandalf/Saruman - 9 [but doesn't use most of it, as stated above]</p><p>Galadriel - 8</p><p>Elrond - 7</p><p>Aragorn - 7 [end of ROTK; 5-6 at the beginning of FOTR]</p><p>Boromir - 4</p><p>Frodo, Sam - 3 [end of ROTK; 1 at the beginning of FOTR]</p><p></p><p>For later editions, where levels tend to go higher, these should increase somewhat... for example...</p><p>Sauron - 21+ [only 'epic' character in the Third Age]</p><p>Gandalf/Saruman - 14</p><p>Aragorn - 11-12 [end; 8-9 at beginning]</p><p>and so on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khisanth the Ancient, post: 7696558, member: 11368"] The thing is that Gandalf technically has tremendous power but (except against the Balrog) is forbidden to use it. So I think it's accurate to say that (except for that one battle, where he throws lightning and stuff around for ages) he never does anything that a 5th level wizard couldn't do - but not that he actually [I]is[/I] one. Also, putting Sauron at 7th-8th level doesn't allow enough room for the power scale that exists between the characters. That article was written back in the "name level" days when 9th-10th was very exceptional. Using that scale I'd suggest something like this... Sauron - 15+ [he is overwhelmingly more powerful than any other being in Middle-Earth in the Third Age] Gandalf/Saruman - 9 [but doesn't use most of it, as stated above] Galadriel - 8 Elrond - 7 Aragorn - 7 [end of ROTK; 5-6 at the beginning of FOTR] Boromir - 4 Frodo, Sam - 3 [end of ROTK; 1 at the beginning of FOTR] For later editions, where levels tend to go higher, these should increase somewhat... for example... Sauron - 21+ [only 'epic' character in the Third Age] Gandalf/Saruman - 14 Aragorn - 11-12 [end; 8-9 at beginning] and so on. [/QUOTE]
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