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<blockquote data-quote="Gadget" data-source="post: 7302564" data-attributes="member: 23716"><p>I saw the movie last night, and largely liked it. It does not quite have the broad, mythic psudo-Campbellian strokes that the original trilogy had, but that could be considered quibbling. I'm not really trying to put to much logic into the fleet and battle tactics (that almost never works out with these type of movies), and I realize that such things always 'moved at the speed of plot', but the long, slow chase seemed particularly egregious in this case. They couldn't vector in another part of the fleet to head them off? Or jump a couple of star destroyers ahead of them?</p><p></p><p>The move also veered a little too much into the silly territory for me, but that is nothing new with Star Wars, going back to the Ewoks. I thought the whole 'parking violation' thing on the casino planet was particularly contrived. They couldn't just have an imperial, sorry, New Order agent spot them and get the authorities onto them? I did find the humor with Luke telling Rey to 'reach out' quite good, even though the side affect is that Rey seems far more advanced with the Force than she should be given her limited knowledge and training. I guess that's the price you pay when you have to compress such a story. </p><p></p><p>The more I think about it, the more I like Luke's whole 'Project Image' trick at the end. An appropriately epic thing for a jedi master to do without being totally over the top. Though I'm a little bit confused in the fact that he clasps hands with Leia and gave her Han's "fuzzy dice" from the Falcon, so it seems he could adjust how solid the image was to a degree; whereas when he fought Kylo Ren, he was merely an image without substance. In fact Kylo Ren finds the "dice" when he finally enters the Rebel base, and they disappear from his hand when Luke disapparates into nothingness and becomes one with the Force. Does that mean a sufficiently powerful jedi could have projected enough of an image to actually light saber duel with someone over a distance? </p><p></p><p>I thought Kylo Ren was not really a bad guy to match Dearth Vader in TFA, what with his indecisiveness and petty rages, but then, who is? It seemed they were setting him up to turn back to the light, but it seems that was more of smoke screen for the viewer, to bring about the big reveal here than anything. I'm not sure how I feel about that...Maybe he will turn about in the final movie, and Snoke will return, as with the fan-theory?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gadget, post: 7302564, member: 23716"] I saw the movie last night, and largely liked it. It does not quite have the broad, mythic psudo-Campbellian strokes that the original trilogy had, but that could be considered quibbling. I'm not really trying to put to much logic into the fleet and battle tactics (that almost never works out with these type of movies), and I realize that such things always 'moved at the speed of plot', but the long, slow chase seemed particularly egregious in this case. They couldn't vector in another part of the fleet to head them off? Or jump a couple of star destroyers ahead of them? The move also veered a little too much into the silly territory for me, but that is nothing new with Star Wars, going back to the Ewoks. I thought the whole 'parking violation' thing on the casino planet was particularly contrived. They couldn't just have an imperial, sorry, New Order agent spot them and get the authorities onto them? I did find the humor with Luke telling Rey to 'reach out' quite good, even though the side affect is that Rey seems far more advanced with the Force than she should be given her limited knowledge and training. I guess that's the price you pay when you have to compress such a story. The more I think about it, the more I like Luke's whole 'Project Image' trick at the end. An appropriately epic thing for a jedi master to do without being totally over the top. Though I'm a little bit confused in the fact that he clasps hands with Leia and gave her Han's "fuzzy dice" from the Falcon, so it seems he could adjust how solid the image was to a degree; whereas when he fought Kylo Ren, he was merely an image without substance. In fact Kylo Ren finds the "dice" when he finally enters the Rebel base, and they disappear from his hand when Luke disapparates into nothingness and becomes one with the Force. Does that mean a sufficiently powerful jedi could have projected enough of an image to actually light saber duel with someone over a distance? I thought Kylo Ren was not really a bad guy to match Dearth Vader in TFA, what with his indecisiveness and petty rages, but then, who is? It seemed they were setting him up to turn back to the light, but it seems that was more of smoke screen for the viewer, to bring about the big reveal here than anything. I'm not sure how I feel about that...Maybe he will turn about in the final movie, and Snoke will return, as with the fan-theory? [/QUOTE]
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