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<blockquote data-quote="ad_hoc" data-source="post: 7747801" data-attributes="member: 6748898"><p>I think the 2 worst classes for new players are the rogue and the warlock. </p><p></p><p>I have had a lot of new players pick rogue over the years and they are by far the ones who have had the toughest time. I think the rogue is the worst for this in 5e. The rogue just doesn't get a lot of buttons. In order to fully realize them they need to be used creatively as environments and situations arise. New players often won't be thinking about how to do this and end up being frustrated that their character can't do much.</p><p></p><p>Warlocks have a lot of moving parts. I think they are the only class where it is not hard to go wrong and make a bad or boring character. Invocations can give them a lot to work with, or not really add any new options/way to play the character. Their spells can be hard to figure out too. Every week there is a thread about how Warlocks' magic is weak. When they actually get the most number of high level spells per long rest. But only if the player actually uses the high level spells. If their spells are wasted on level 1 spells then the Warlock will feel underwhelming.</p><p></p><p>So with a new player I recommend staying away from the rogue and the warlock. Monk is also not great for the same reasons as the rogue.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have found the opposite of this (except Monk). Wizards, Sorcerers, Clerics, etc. have clear direct buttons that can be pushed to have a fantastic and strong effect on the game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ad_hoc, post: 7747801, member: 6748898"] I think the 2 worst classes for new players are the rogue and the warlock. I have had a lot of new players pick rogue over the years and they are by far the ones who have had the toughest time. I think the rogue is the worst for this in 5e. The rogue just doesn't get a lot of buttons. In order to fully realize them they need to be used creatively as environments and situations arise. New players often won't be thinking about how to do this and end up being frustrated that their character can't do much. Warlocks have a lot of moving parts. I think they are the only class where it is not hard to go wrong and make a bad or boring character. Invocations can give them a lot to work with, or not really add any new options/way to play the character. Their spells can be hard to figure out too. Every week there is a thread about how Warlocks' magic is weak. When they actually get the most number of high level spells per long rest. But only if the player actually uses the high level spells. If their spells are wasted on level 1 spells then the Warlock will feel underwhelming. So with a new player I recommend staying away from the rogue and the warlock. Monk is also not great for the same reasons as the rogue. I have found the opposite of this (except Monk). Wizards, Sorcerers, Clerics, etc. have clear direct buttons that can be pushed to have a fantastic and strong effect on the game. [/QUOTE]
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