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<blockquote data-quote="OldSchoolGamerGirl" data-source="post: 9061404" data-attributes="member: 7041190"><p>Okay, so we do not have a complete look at fighter, but we can assume battle master will show up in one way shape or form.</p><p></p><p>Lord Knows there are enough "Fighters are too weak/fighters are fine" threads so for this thread can we all just work on the assumption that the fighter we end up with in 2024 will not be a carbon copy of the 2014 book but will also not be as powerful/flexable as a full caster?</p><p></p><p>So weapon mastery looked like it was going to be the warrior thing with fighters doing it best. The latest we have gives it to rogues. Now the latest rogue without even taking a subclass gets the ability to trade every round damage for cool effects at 5th+ level.</p><p></p><p>Disarm, Trip, Poison and withdraw show up for 1d of SA at 5th</p><p>At level 11 you can do 2 of them (costing 2 dice though) so you can trip and poison or disarm and withdraw</p><p>At level 14 you get Daze (2d) knock out (6d) and obscure (3d)</p><p></p><p>now combined with weapon mastery this is more options than I would expect (especially with mix and matching) </p><p></p><p>assuming most play time is between 3rd and 11th level, in more then half of it (5-11) the rouge is now a darn good complex fighter. </p><p></p><p>if you take swashbuckler there are 4 more of those too.</p><p></p><p></p><p>so how do you think a 2024 battle master will play against this? a battle master can't disarm every round in the 2014 phb, do you think they will in 2024?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OldSchoolGamerGirl, post: 9061404, member: 7041190"] Okay, so we do not have a complete look at fighter, but we can assume battle master will show up in one way shape or form. Lord Knows there are enough "Fighters are too weak/fighters are fine" threads so for this thread can we all just work on the assumption that the fighter we end up with in 2024 will not be a carbon copy of the 2014 book but will also not be as powerful/flexable as a full caster? So weapon mastery looked like it was going to be the warrior thing with fighters doing it best. The latest we have gives it to rogues. Now the latest rogue without even taking a subclass gets the ability to trade every round damage for cool effects at 5th+ level. Disarm, Trip, Poison and withdraw show up for 1d of SA at 5th At level 11 you can do 2 of them (costing 2 dice though) so you can trip and poison or disarm and withdraw At level 14 you get Daze (2d) knock out (6d) and obscure (3d) now combined with weapon mastery this is more options than I would expect (especially with mix and matching) assuming most play time is between 3rd and 11th level, in more then half of it (5-11) the rouge is now a darn good complex fighter. if you take swashbuckler there are 4 more of those too. so how do you think a 2024 battle master will play against this? a battle master can't disarm every round in the 2014 phb, do you think they will in 2024? [/QUOTE]
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