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<blockquote data-quote="boredgremlin" data-source="post: 3395091" data-attributes="member: 31646"><p>Come on. Acaveda knowlingly aided and abbetted vic over several seasons when it suited his political ends. To paint him as some kind of avenging reformer "cleaning up the precinct" is rediculous. Acaveda knew exactly what was going on and not only didnt he do anything to stop it throughout most of the show, he actively went out of his way to make sure Vic found out about cases that needed his kind of police work and fed him information. </p><p></p><p> When it comes to dealers and gangs, well they are a fact of life of those neighborhoods and nothing is ever going to get rid of them. Society has had problems with gangs of uneducated lower classes propogating crime since the roman empire. </p><p> The best society has ever managed to do is keep them under some level of control so that thier violence is mainly directed each other and the people who seek thier goods and services. it might not be the idealists solution but it is the only one that has ever had any serious affect on gang violence. </p><p></p><p> Mackey was being a realist and making sure the more damaging effects of thier presence were directed at each other and not innocents. That doesnt make his approach lawful, but not trying to ride in like the lone ranger and round up all the bad guys at once (and undoudtedly scratching his head in wonder when a whole new batch of uneducated, easy money seeking, drug peddling scum appeared the next week to take thier place) doesnt make you evil either. </p><p></p><p> I remember reading a saying once. I think it was Machiavelli, that went "you cant fight evil standing on a mountain top, you have to get down in the pit with it and get yourself dirty". Thats exactly what the strike team did and i think the end results while bad for some were good for most. What else can you reasonably shoot for in that line of work?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="boredgremlin, post: 3395091, member: 31646"] Come on. Acaveda knowlingly aided and abbetted vic over several seasons when it suited his political ends. To paint him as some kind of avenging reformer "cleaning up the precinct" is rediculous. Acaveda knew exactly what was going on and not only didnt he do anything to stop it throughout most of the show, he actively went out of his way to make sure Vic found out about cases that needed his kind of police work and fed him information. When it comes to dealers and gangs, well they are a fact of life of those neighborhoods and nothing is ever going to get rid of them. Society has had problems with gangs of uneducated lower classes propogating crime since the roman empire. The best society has ever managed to do is keep them under some level of control so that thier violence is mainly directed each other and the people who seek thier goods and services. it might not be the idealists solution but it is the only one that has ever had any serious affect on gang violence. Mackey was being a realist and making sure the more damaging effects of thier presence were directed at each other and not innocents. That doesnt make his approach lawful, but not trying to ride in like the lone ranger and round up all the bad guys at once (and undoudtedly scratching his head in wonder when a whole new batch of uneducated, easy money seeking, drug peddling scum appeared the next week to take thier place) doesnt make you evil either. I remember reading a saying once. I think it was Machiavelli, that went "you cant fight evil standing on a mountain top, you have to get down in the pit with it and get yourself dirty". Thats exactly what the strike team did and i think the end results while bad for some were good for most. What else can you reasonably shoot for in that line of work? [/QUOTE]
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