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What are the most UNDER/OVER CRed Monsters in the Monster Manual?
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<blockquote data-quote="guachi" data-source="post: 7232645" data-attributes="member: 6785802"><p>Thugs and Bandit Captains are pretty brutal for their CR ratings.</p><p></p><p>I remember a really long discussion when 5e came out one this board (I think it was here...) about whether the thug should be CR 1 or not.</p><p></p><p>Anything with a high damage nova that gets to go first (which is pretty obvious, I guess). The aforementioned flameskull is one. </p><p></p><p>Anything with two+ attacks can be a problem. Yesterday I had the party meet a half-orc and his two mountain lions (from module UK2). The sabre-toothed tiger is CR2 and so is the polar bear, but the polar bear has two attacks. Mixing the two to create the mountain lion and giving the lion two attacks made a huge difference. A party of 2 5th level and 4 3rd level were almost wiped out by them. The half-orc was configured as an assassin and got surprise. With a 1d6 short sword, 3d6 sneak attack, and 1d6 from savage attacks, a hit of any kind during surprise is a 10d6 hit. Luckily, the character attacked had the highest AC and the half-orc missed twice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="guachi, post: 7232645, member: 6785802"] Thugs and Bandit Captains are pretty brutal for their CR ratings. I remember a really long discussion when 5e came out one this board (I think it was here...) about whether the thug should be CR 1 or not. Anything with a high damage nova that gets to go first (which is pretty obvious, I guess). The aforementioned flameskull is one. Anything with two+ attacks can be a problem. Yesterday I had the party meet a half-orc and his two mountain lions (from module UK2). The sabre-toothed tiger is CR2 and so is the polar bear, but the polar bear has two attacks. Mixing the two to create the mountain lion and giving the lion two attacks made a huge difference. A party of 2 5th level and 4 3rd level were almost wiped out by them. The half-orc was configured as an assassin and got surprise. With a 1d6 short sword, 3d6 sneak attack, and 1d6 from savage attacks, a hit of any kind during surprise is a 10d6 hit. Luckily, the character attacked had the highest AC and the half-orc missed twice. [/QUOTE]
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