Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What are the Roles now?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Unwise" data-source="post: 6501185" data-attributes="member: 98008"><p>Following on from the discussion about clerics in another thread, people were discussing how it is more important to simply cover roles than have a particular class. This got me thinking, what are the actual roles in 5e now? In 4e they were blatant and we seem to assume they are the same in 5e, but I doubt that is the case.</p><p></p><p>Is Defender a role now? Paladins, Bear Barbarians and Fighters can do it, but even then only really with a feat. How important is it? Are they tough enough to warrant wanting to direct attacks at them?</p><p></p><p>How necessary is the Healer? Short of an emergency heal, most healing seems to be done out of combat, something that some feats and medial expertise can deal with to an extent. Can it be viewed as a sidenote of a class, or do we need a dedicated Healer roll?</p><p></p><p>Is Striker a unique enough set of skills to call it a roll? It seems that many classes can do good damage these days. Sorc, Warlock, Evok Wizard, Barbarian, Ranger, Rogue, Fighter, Paladin, Monk all compete for great damage. Is it fair to say that damage dealing is also a bit of a given these days, not worthy of a dedicated roll?</p><p></p><p>Despite the way I have phrased the above questions, I don't have much of an opinion on the topic.</p><p></p><p>I would say that when creating a party, I tend to want certain rolls covered. Just for interest I'm trying to put them in priority order.</p><p></p><p>1. A sneaky guy who can pick locks and disarm traps.</p><p>2. Somebody with social skills.</p><p>3. A meat shield of some sort, need not be a dedicated defender.</p><p>4. Some healing, need not be a dedicated healer.</p><p>5. Area effect damage</p><p>6. Arcana skills</p><p>7. Outdoor skills</p><p>8. Hold person or some other way to remove people from a fight non-fatally.</p><p></p><p>So really, for me it comes down to wanting to see:</p><p>1. A dex based guy</p><p>2. A guy with good charisma</p><p>3. Somebody with decent AC</p><p></p><p>The rest we can get by with using backgrounds, spells and feats. Sure I want more than that, but at a pinch we can get by.</p><p></p><p>What do you think the roles that need covering are? </p><p>And how would your priorities them in a small group? </p><p>I am more interested in roles than which specific characters are best, but feel free to include your small group dream-team if you like.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Unwise, post: 6501185, member: 98008"] Following on from the discussion about clerics in another thread, people were discussing how it is more important to simply cover roles than have a particular class. This got me thinking, what are the actual roles in 5e now? In 4e they were blatant and we seem to assume they are the same in 5e, but I doubt that is the case. Is Defender a role now? Paladins, Bear Barbarians and Fighters can do it, but even then only really with a feat. How important is it? Are they tough enough to warrant wanting to direct attacks at them? How necessary is the Healer? Short of an emergency heal, most healing seems to be done out of combat, something that some feats and medial expertise can deal with to an extent. Can it be viewed as a sidenote of a class, or do we need a dedicated Healer roll? Is Striker a unique enough set of skills to call it a roll? It seems that many classes can do good damage these days. Sorc, Warlock, Evok Wizard, Barbarian, Ranger, Rogue, Fighter, Paladin, Monk all compete for great damage. Is it fair to say that damage dealing is also a bit of a given these days, not worthy of a dedicated roll? Despite the way I have phrased the above questions, I don't have much of an opinion on the topic. I would say that when creating a party, I tend to want certain rolls covered. Just for interest I'm trying to put them in priority order. 1. A sneaky guy who can pick locks and disarm traps. 2. Somebody with social skills. 3. A meat shield of some sort, need not be a dedicated defender. 4. Some healing, need not be a dedicated healer. 5. Area effect damage 6. Arcana skills 7. Outdoor skills 8. Hold person or some other way to remove people from a fight non-fatally. So really, for me it comes down to wanting to see: 1. A dex based guy 2. A guy with good charisma 3. Somebody with decent AC The rest we can get by with using backgrounds, spells and feats. Sure I want more than that, but at a pinch we can get by. What do you think the roles that need covering are? And how would your priorities them in a small group? I am more interested in roles than which specific characters are best, but feel free to include your small group dream-team if you like. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What are the Roles now?
Top