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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6629018" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>no... other opinions "Hey I don't like roles?" are fine </p><p></p><p>it's others stating fact not in evidence (or at least debatable) "I can't play X with roles" when through out the entire thread people have pointed out that the roles are no more or less restrictive then you want them to be...</p><p></p><p>stating an opion like "I don't like cheeseburgers" is fine, or even saying something more general like "I don't like fast food."</p><p>how ever stating something like "Man I miss days before fast food when you could cook your own burger" is plainly false... nothing about there being fast food stops you from making your own burger... </p><p></p><p>"I don't like D&D 4e" is an opinion, "I don't want to use roles" is an opinion, "Roles force the game to be played a way that no one that likes roles plays like" is not an opinion it is denying what people are telling you...</p><p></p><p></p><p>I do not like spicy food (for the most part) what I consider spicy a lot of people call bland... I can't even explain exactly why my opionon is bad of spicy food, I just don't like it... I do not pretend that someone labeling food on a menu as spicy means I will never eat out again (at that restaurant or any other)...</p><p></p><p></p><p>the dismissive part is we have been over and over in this thread that there are people who can not see anything stoping the playing of the game the exact same way in 4e that he describes... so, what he misses is still there... or else are you going to tell me no one who ever played 4e played a groupd of fighters?</p><p></p><p></p><p>he didn't start a new thread not knowing that this argument went on for weeks (wait maybe months) he looked for this old thread full of the argument, then came in to claim that "I miss X" even though if X was missing was the entrie disagreement (or atleast a major thrust of the disaggrement.)</p><p></p><p>the difference is walking out side and saying "Man, it's cold out" and finding two people who have argued 'its cold' 'no it's warm' and saying "Man. it's cold out" after they both stoped argueing... it either A restarts the argument or B is spikeing the ball</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6629018, member: 67338"] no... other opinions "Hey I don't like roles?" are fine it's others stating fact not in evidence (or at least debatable) "I can't play X with roles" when through out the entire thread people have pointed out that the roles are no more or less restrictive then you want them to be... stating an opion like "I don't like cheeseburgers" is fine, or even saying something more general like "I don't like fast food." how ever stating something like "Man I miss days before fast food when you could cook your own burger" is plainly false... nothing about there being fast food stops you from making your own burger... "I don't like D&D 4e" is an opinion, "I don't want to use roles" is an opinion, "Roles force the game to be played a way that no one that likes roles plays like" is not an opinion it is denying what people are telling you... I do not like spicy food (for the most part) what I consider spicy a lot of people call bland... I can't even explain exactly why my opionon is bad of spicy food, I just don't like it... I do not pretend that someone labeling food on a menu as spicy means I will never eat out again (at that restaurant or any other)... the dismissive part is we have been over and over in this thread that there are people who can not see anything stoping the playing of the game the exact same way in 4e that he describes... so, what he misses is still there... or else are you going to tell me no one who ever played 4e played a groupd of fighters? he didn't start a new thread not knowing that this argument went on for weeks (wait maybe months) he looked for this old thread full of the argument, then came in to claim that "I miss X" even though if X was missing was the entrie disagreement (or atleast a major thrust of the disaggrement.) the difference is walking out side and saying "Man, it's cold out" and finding two people who have argued 'its cold' 'no it's warm' and saying "Man. it's cold out" after they both stoped argueing... it either A restarts the argument or B is spikeing the ball [/QUOTE]
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