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<blockquote data-quote="Jhaelen" data-source="post: 7111500" data-attributes="member: 46713"><p>Sounds like the category of books I consider 'Ulysses' by James Joyce to be a part of. I fully realize it's the work of a genius, but it was a real slog to read. I'm kind of glad I did, though, because I now have a better idea what it's like. It's a piece of art, and also a bit akin to what us software engineers call a 'proof of concept'.</p><p></p><p>It's also a category I like to use for music: I make a point to differentiate between music I consider bad, and music that I don't like. Many don't seem to get the difference, but to me it's obvious. I believe you can define a set of objective criteria that allows you to tell good music from bad, but you cannot do that to decide if you enjoy music or not.</p><p></p><p>Finally, I had a related discussion about movies: E.g. I really like some of the movies by Michael Haneke, e.g. Funny Games, or The White Ribbon. But they can be really painful to watch at times. So, when I recommended them to a friend, he asked me: "Why should I watch a movie that isn't entertaining? Why watch something that isn't fun to watch?" To which, unfortunately, I didn't really have a completely satisfying answer, except that I consider it important for some reason to sometimes watch these kind of movies, if only because they make you think about them. In fact, it's likely you'll never get them fully out of your mind again; they become a part of you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jhaelen, post: 7111500, member: 46713"] Sounds like the category of books I consider 'Ulysses' by James Joyce to be a part of. I fully realize it's the work of a genius, but it was a real slog to read. I'm kind of glad I did, though, because I now have a better idea what it's like. It's a piece of art, and also a bit akin to what us software engineers call a 'proof of concept'. It's also a category I like to use for music: I make a point to differentiate between music I consider bad, and music that I don't like. Many don't seem to get the difference, but to me it's obvious. I believe you can define a set of objective criteria that allows you to tell good music from bad, but you cannot do that to decide if you enjoy music or not. Finally, I had a related discussion about movies: E.g. I really like some of the movies by Michael Haneke, e.g. Funny Games, or The White Ribbon. But they can be really painful to watch at times. So, when I recommended them to a friend, he asked me: "Why should I watch a movie that isn't entertaining? Why watch something that isn't fun to watch?" To which, unfortunately, I didn't really have a completely satisfying answer, except that I consider it important for some reason to sometimes watch these kind of movies, if only because they make you think about them. In fact, it's likely you'll never get them fully out of your mind again; they become a part of you. [/QUOTE]
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