Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is coming! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What DM flaw has caused you to actually leave a game?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7504011" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>But if not agreeing to it is enough to bar one from joining the game, that counts as pretty heavy enforcement in my view.</p><p></p><p>Hell, 20-25 sessions isn't enough time for me to even get nicely started into a campaign, either as player or DM. Never mind that as player I'd expect to likely still be 1st level after that time, and certainly still 1st level if I'd had few of my characters killed off; a common occurrence. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Sure, that works - just as well as saying "Can I discern the source of the smoke?".</p><p></p><p>You and I at the same table would be an adventure, to say the least. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>This runs hard into the question of how much info is too much, with regard to metagaming and player-v-character knowledge. Telegraphing a hidden threat kinda doesn't make it hidden any more if one assumes player knowledge and character knowledge are the same.</p><p></p><p>Funny - I've been accused elsewhere of having a definition of 'railroad' that is too narrow, by posters who are in this thread no less! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>As for metagaming concerns, AFAIC there's no such thing as overblown. Metagaming is bad and though there will always be some, eliminating the possibility for it where one can is always the right way to go.</p><p></p><p>Lanefan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7504011, member: 29398"] But if not agreeing to it is enough to bar one from joining the game, that counts as pretty heavy enforcement in my view. Hell, 20-25 sessions isn't enough time for me to even get nicely started into a campaign, either as player or DM. Never mind that as player I'd expect to likely still be 1st level after that time, and certainly still 1st level if I'd had few of my characters killed off; a common occurrence. :) Sure, that works - just as well as saying "Can I discern the source of the smoke?". You and I at the same table would be an adventure, to say the least. :) This runs hard into the question of how much info is too much, with regard to metagaming and player-v-character knowledge. Telegraphing a hidden threat kinda doesn't make it hidden any more if one assumes player knowledge and character knowledge are the same. Funny - I've been accused elsewhere of having a definition of 'railroad' that is too narrow, by posters who are in this thread no less! :) As for metagaming concerns, AFAIC there's no such thing as overblown. Metagaming is bad and though there will always be some, eliminating the possibility for it where one can is always the right way to go. Lanefan [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What DM flaw has caused you to actually leave a game?
Top