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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7507920" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>RE the first bold - about "don't play this" - again my goalposts stay right where they were - if the player and i cannot agree on what is required we agree on for ABC (in this case for them to play a warlock class character") then the answer is no. if i am not allowed to say "no" without ill-will and cries of inhuman decency or dick moves, then there really is no sense of collaboration or "group" at the table. Like i said, he is free to choose to play a class with different requirements where "the stuff that comes with the choice" is more to his liking. he is also free to say no to me and go find a table where the gameplay there is more to his liking - without any questions about human decency or his being a dick - since normal folks understand there are just some times where things do not work well together.</p><p></p><p>How components are handled (by the rules or homebrew), how inventory is handled etc etc are all parts of the game worked out before play begins. They certainly vary by table and so my expectation is players can find tables where those are handled to their satisfaction if *ours* is not one of them. But if we are playing RAW at this one and one table demands his inventory handled "backgrounded" or is more polite until he is said no to and then become insulting, he would be looking for another table.</p><p></p><p>As for the paladin vs druid/ranger - again we have established the rules (RAW or homebrew) and if the RAW is in use and the paladin mount was designed as having special features but the others do not, then its unlikely that we are going to give them those abilities for free. If you want to choose a full-sized elephant, fine if thats within the rules, but do not expect to get us to ignore that choice when you need to go somewhere its size will make difficult. Any more than we will ignore heavy armor's weight or stealth problems when you dont want that. </p><p></p><p>but you are always open to go find a table where elephants can go wherever they want - after all we can at least point them your way it seems. Then you both can sit around and conjure up stories about how indecent those who play differently than you are.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7507920, member: 6919838"] RE the first bold - about "don't play this" - again my goalposts stay right where they were - if the player and i cannot agree on what is required we agree on for ABC (in this case for them to play a warlock class character") then the answer is no. if i am not allowed to say "no" without ill-will and cries of inhuman decency or dick moves, then there really is no sense of collaboration or "group" at the table. Like i said, he is free to choose to play a class with different requirements where "the stuff that comes with the choice" is more to his liking. he is also free to say no to me and go find a table where the gameplay there is more to his liking - without any questions about human decency or his being a dick - since normal folks understand there are just some times where things do not work well together. How components are handled (by the rules or homebrew), how inventory is handled etc etc are all parts of the game worked out before play begins. They certainly vary by table and so my expectation is players can find tables where those are handled to their satisfaction if *ours* is not one of them. But if we are playing RAW at this one and one table demands his inventory handled "backgrounded" or is more polite until he is said no to and then become insulting, he would be looking for another table. As for the paladin vs druid/ranger - again we have established the rules (RAW or homebrew) and if the RAW is in use and the paladin mount was designed as having special features but the others do not, then its unlikely that we are going to give them those abilities for free. If you want to choose a full-sized elephant, fine if thats within the rules, but do not expect to get us to ignore that choice when you need to go somewhere its size will make difficult. Any more than we will ignore heavy armor's weight or stealth problems when you dont want that. but you are always open to go find a table where elephants can go wherever they want - after all we can at least point them your way it seems. Then you both can sit around and conjure up stories about how indecent those who play differently than you are. [/QUOTE]
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