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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7515679" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>I'm going to repost my post to which you replied (and will explain why I've bolded what I've bolded):</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p></p><p>So I'll ask again, <em>how did it become true</em>, in this example, that the PC is moving across the room? You have once again said that the player's action declaration does not yield such a result. You have said (and I have bolded) that <em>the GM narrates the results</em> but in the original example the second of my bolded bits ("you cross the room") was not said by the GM. All the GM says is <em>OK</em> - but that is not narrating a result. In fact the most natural reading is that the GM is <em>affirming</em> the player's establishing of some fiction!</p><p></p><p>Which is exactly what I think actually happens at most RPG tables. The player puts forward a contribution to the shared fiction, and the GM accepts it. Just as, when the GM narrates results - ie puts forward contributions to the shared fiction - the players accept that by going on to declare new actions that presuppose the GM's proposed changes to the state of the fiction. That's <em>everyone playing a game together</em> as opposed to the GM playing with him-/herself but taking suggestions on the side.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 7515679, member: 42582"] I'm going to repost my post to which you replied (and will explain why I've bolded what I've bolded): [indent][/indent] So I'll ask again, [I]how did it become true[/I], in this example, that the PC is moving across the room? You have once again said that the player's action declaration does not yield such a result. You have said (and I have bolded) that [I]the GM narrates the results[/I] but in the original example the second of my bolded bits ("you cross the room") was not said by the GM. All the GM says is [I]OK[/I] - but that is not narrating a result. In fact the most natural reading is that the GM is [I]affirming[/I] the player's establishing of some fiction! Which is exactly what I think actually happens at most RPG tables. The player puts forward a contribution to the shared fiction, and the GM accepts it. Just as, when the GM narrates results - ie puts forward contributions to the shared fiction - the players accept that by going on to declare new actions that presuppose the GM's proposed changes to the state of the fiction. That's [I]everyone playing a game together[/I] as opposed to the GM playing with him-/herself but taking suggestions on the side. [/QUOTE]
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