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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7516945" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>Why do you continuously gloss over the fact that it's not just the DM who wants to run this particular game but also the other members (except for one) who want to play it? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And I think it's an incredibly douchey thing to do to force the entire group to miss out on a game/experience they will enjoy because you don't personally enjoy it. It's not like you HAVE to play in this specific campaign or that the group will only ever play that game. </p><p></p><p>Stepping outside of gaming for a minute... I am not a fan of basketball, don't enjoy watching or playing it but nearly everyone in my current gaming group does and they play on Sunday mornings, once a week as long as weather permits. I'll play once in a while but in general because I don't enjoy it I choose not to play with them. It would never occur to me that they are bad friends because they don't change from playing basketball to football or jogging because that's what I like, even though most of them enjoy those activities as well. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First... no one said anything about a DM being only able to run one game or campaign... but again if I know I would highly prefer one over the others and all of my players except one do as well then why should I run something that brings everyone less enjoyment... well everyone except the one player whose putting his own desires above every other person in the group.</p><p></p><p>Also... wanting to run a particular game over others has nothing to do with the quality of the DM as you seem to be implying above... in the same way I don't think a player who for some strange reason won't or can't suck it up and play in a game that all of his friends really want to play in speaks to him or her being a low quality player... </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's funny but those both sound like preferences (like and dislike) to me. i also find it funny that you keep trotting out these strawmen... whose arguing for one taste and never deviating? What are you even talking about? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The younger members weren't a part of that campaign but joined back once it was over. They had other interests and activities (many of which the older members don't participate in) that they enjoy and they were more than ok with playing a little more Fortnite online with their friends from school, going up to the park to play basketball or various other things. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well SotDL has a very specific campaign structure that doesn't last long about 1x a week for about 2 1/2 to 3 months. And yes the player chose not to participate but he was back and part of the group once we moved on to a different game. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well I do other things besides game with my friends... but then we recognize that we don't all have to always do the same things at the same time together. We have things we enjoy doing as a full group, things we enjoy doing with subsets of each other as well as individual interests we pursue without each other or with other friends outside this circle. This seems healthier overall IMO than some type of social contract where we all have to be enjoying something or none of us do it. But hey whatever floats your boat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 7516945, member: 48965"] Why do you continuously gloss over the fact that it's not just the DM who wants to run this particular game but also the other members (except for one) who want to play it? And I think it's an incredibly douchey thing to do to force the entire group to miss out on a game/experience they will enjoy because you don't personally enjoy it. It's not like you HAVE to play in this specific campaign or that the group will only ever play that game. Stepping outside of gaming for a minute... I am not a fan of basketball, don't enjoy watching or playing it but nearly everyone in my current gaming group does and they play on Sunday mornings, once a week as long as weather permits. I'll play once in a while but in general because I don't enjoy it I choose not to play with them. It would never occur to me that they are bad friends because they don't change from playing basketball to football or jogging because that's what I like, even though most of them enjoy those activities as well. First... no one said anything about a DM being only able to run one game or campaign... but again if I know I would highly prefer one over the others and all of my players except one do as well then why should I run something that brings everyone less enjoyment... well everyone except the one player whose putting his own desires above every other person in the group. Also... wanting to run a particular game over others has nothing to do with the quality of the DM as you seem to be implying above... in the same way I don't think a player who for some strange reason won't or can't suck it up and play in a game that all of his friends really want to play in speaks to him or her being a low quality player... It's funny but those both sound like preferences (like and dislike) to me. i also find it funny that you keep trotting out these strawmen... whose arguing for one taste and never deviating? What are you even talking about? The younger members weren't a part of that campaign but joined back once it was over. They had other interests and activities (many of which the older members don't participate in) that they enjoy and they were more than ok with playing a little more Fortnite online with their friends from school, going up to the park to play basketball or various other things. Well SotDL has a very specific campaign structure that doesn't last long about 1x a week for about 2 1/2 to 3 months. And yes the player chose not to participate but he was back and part of the group once we moved on to a different game. Well I do other things besides game with my friends... but then we recognize that we don't all have to always do the same things at the same time together. We have things we enjoy doing as a full group, things we enjoy doing with subsets of each other as well as individual interests we pursue without each other or with other friends outside this circle. This seems healthier overall IMO than some type of social contract where we all have to be enjoying something or none of us do it. But hey whatever floats your boat. [/QUOTE]
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