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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6976570" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>It is indeed an ice genie, but unlike the mud genie, I cannot take credit for it. To my knowledge they first appeared as part of an article on the WotC website, and were later incorporated into several published works including at least one adventure and I believe the monster section of Frostburn. It appears, now they I look around the web, that I may be misspelling them and that the proper spelling is "Qorrashi" or "Qorrash". In any event, the 3rd edition stats should not be too hard to come by. If they prove to be, I have them somewhere.</p><p></p><p>On the question of the Jann Vizier, I am not entirely sure which sort of division or graduation into ranks you intend to use. In 1e AD&D as you may know, the Jann had three classes of exalted leaders, the Sheiks and Emirs with greater HD, and the Viziers with additional spellcasting ability. In later editions, those three divisions tend to get lumped together in various ways, with Sheiks sometimes playing the part of both greater HD and additional spellcasting ability. In any event, Sheik Salib is meant to be a Sheik, whereas Bey Suliejan is meant to have the powers of a Vizier. Beyg Kattan on the other hand, having her position through marriage, was not intended to be a Vizier, but certainly could be. While I'm on the subject of rank, I've been using quasi-Arabic naming conventions and diverse middle-eastern ranks as if they were part of the same feudal culture in true D&D fashion. I'm pretty sure though that in actual middle-eastern practice, the honorific follows after the last name rather than before it. So Nabil Bey Suilijen should properly be Nabil Suliejan Bey. My thinking is that most English hearers are going to find the proper mode of address confusing, and so I'm actually placing it according to my homebrew's fashion modifying the last name just before the last name, so that the short form of address becomes "Bey Suilijen" (Sir Suleijin or perhaps Squire Suleijin). Alter that to be more appropriate "cultural appropriation" "Suilijen Bey" if you prefer.</p><p></p><p>On a related subject, I'm not entirely sure how 5e deals with NPC classed individuals. Virtually every character I've not given a combat hint to is intended to function as a low level Expert on top their usual crafting ability as a Jann, since these are leaders in their respective trades and functionally some of the most skilled crafters on the Prime Material Plane. 5e doesn't seem to have much granularity when it comes to skills, and certainly seems to consider the skills of NPCs to be something not worth commenting on. I presume that you just call out particular Jann as having proficiency in certain skills/tool use, and certain proficiency bonuses without necessarily increasing HD? Intrigue and overcoming it doesn't seem to be much of a 5e thing as of yet.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are a man after my own heart. I'm personally a huge fan of fairy tale NPCs, but some people find them off-putting. I'll come up with something, and I'll probably have to drop my pet NPC Jasper into Qaybar as it is definitely his sort of town and could not paaaawwssibly stay away from anywhere sooo very fashionable and interesting.</p><p></p><p>I think I'll not touch your power brokers directly and leave the Malik and other concepts to you, but if that's as far as you've got I'll spend some time thinking about who other than Sheik Salib has real power and not merely wealth or influence.</p><p></p><p>I'm seriously going to need to put this down at some point and go back to planning my own campaign, but as I said, I've always had a weakness for the Jann and now I have to settle in my head what sort of city they might have.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6976570, member: 4937"] It is indeed an ice genie, but unlike the mud genie, I cannot take credit for it. To my knowledge they first appeared as part of an article on the WotC website, and were later incorporated into several published works including at least one adventure and I believe the monster section of Frostburn. It appears, now they I look around the web, that I may be misspelling them and that the proper spelling is "Qorrashi" or "Qorrash". In any event, the 3rd edition stats should not be too hard to come by. If they prove to be, I have them somewhere. On the question of the Jann Vizier, I am not entirely sure which sort of division or graduation into ranks you intend to use. In 1e AD&D as you may know, the Jann had three classes of exalted leaders, the Sheiks and Emirs with greater HD, and the Viziers with additional spellcasting ability. In later editions, those three divisions tend to get lumped together in various ways, with Sheiks sometimes playing the part of both greater HD and additional spellcasting ability. In any event, Sheik Salib is meant to be a Sheik, whereas Bey Suliejan is meant to have the powers of a Vizier. Beyg Kattan on the other hand, having her position through marriage, was not intended to be a Vizier, but certainly could be. While I'm on the subject of rank, I've been using quasi-Arabic naming conventions and diverse middle-eastern ranks as if they were part of the same feudal culture in true D&D fashion. I'm pretty sure though that in actual middle-eastern practice, the honorific follows after the last name rather than before it. So Nabil Bey Suilijen should properly be Nabil Suliejan Bey. My thinking is that most English hearers are going to find the proper mode of address confusing, and so I'm actually placing it according to my homebrew's fashion modifying the last name just before the last name, so that the short form of address becomes "Bey Suilijen" (Sir Suleijin or perhaps Squire Suleijin). Alter that to be more appropriate "cultural appropriation" "Suilijen Bey" if you prefer. On a related subject, I'm not entirely sure how 5e deals with NPC classed individuals. Virtually every character I've not given a combat hint to is intended to function as a low level Expert on top their usual crafting ability as a Jann, since these are leaders in their respective trades and functionally some of the most skilled crafters on the Prime Material Plane. 5e doesn't seem to have much granularity when it comes to skills, and certainly seems to consider the skills of NPCs to be something not worth commenting on. I presume that you just call out particular Jann as having proficiency in certain skills/tool use, and certain proficiency bonuses without necessarily increasing HD? Intrigue and overcoming it doesn't seem to be much of a 5e thing as of yet. You are a man after my own heart. I'm personally a huge fan of fairy tale NPCs, but some people find them off-putting. I'll come up with something, and I'll probably have to drop my pet NPC Jasper into Qaybar as it is definitely his sort of town and could not paaaawwssibly stay away from anywhere sooo very fashionable and interesting. I think I'll not touch your power brokers directly and leave the Malik and other concepts to you, but if that's as far as you've got I'll spend some time thinking about who other than Sheik Salib has real power and not merely wealth or influence. I'm seriously going to need to put this down at some point and go back to planning my own campaign, but as I said, I've always had a weakness for the Jann and now I have to settle in my head what sort of city they might have. [/QUOTE]
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